andrew_hatch Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Hi,I am interested in an old track plan i have seen the outline of - trackplan 7R, for an 8 x 6 board. Does anyone out there know what original track plan book this was from, as I am trying to find the detail on what track I need to build it.Thanks
Chrissaf Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 If you have or obtain the track drawing software "www.anyrail.com" then you can obtain the Hornby 7R track plan anyrail file as part of the "HornbyPlans.zip" file download from here. Load the Hornby 7R file into Anyrail and it should give you a 'bill of goods' itemised parts list. The clickable link to Anyrail is also on the 'download from here' web page above.
Chrissaf Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Addendum to last post..Since the FREE TRIAL of Anyrail is limited to 50 track pieces. The chances are that the Hornby 7R plan exceeds that limit. There are users of Anyrail software on this forum. Maybe someone who is feeling generous would download the Hornby 7R plan into it and post back here with the itemised parts list.........Any takers out there feeling generous?
37lover Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Addendum to last post..Since the FREE TRIAL of Anyrail is limited to 50 track pieces. The chances are that the Hornby 7R plan exceeds that limit. There are users of Anyrail software on this forum. Maybe someone who is feeling generous would download the Hornby 7R plan into it and post back here with the itemised parts list.........Any takers out there feeling generous?Isn't that a bit against Anyrail? They offer a trial, to take full advantage then don't you think people should pay their way?
Chrissaf Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Fair point........and since you have now voiced it......anybody who might have been inclined to oblige has probably been scared off from doing so.....fearing recrimination.
96RAF Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I have the Anyrail Zip folder presumably the one Chris is on about as it was downloaded from the inter-web, containing some 164 plans, but the five 8x6 plans are all named not numbered - i.e. Bankbridge - Castleford - Island - Nevilles Green and Skipton. Edit: Mine is different as the one Chris links to is the numbered plans version. Double click the 7R plan (after you have installed Anyrail trial) and the plan opens, then you can tick part number and label in the header ribbon to see what parts are required. All within the T's & C's of the trial, els it wouldn't show. Further Edit" In File - Info there is the various bill of material options.
Chrissaf Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Rob, I download the ZIP file I linked to and unzipped it. I found the Hornby 7R listed in it. I've deleted the file now so I can't recheck it, but from memory I think it was named something like "7r 8x6.any".EDIT: I was typing as you were editing, so the gist is, that even within the trial restrictions Andrew can still see what track part number goes where on the plan. In other words, enough detail is still visible for him to resolve his issue if he installs the Anyrail trial version.
VESPA Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 track plan 7R without R numbers for the track............ http://www.freetrackplans.com/Hornby-7R.php
96RAF Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 On the page that Vespa links to is a tab for Downloads, which is where the Zip folders reside.A note with the Hornby plans Zip says the plans are copyright Hornby and although you are free to use them you should not copy them without Hornby permission. I presume this means into another publication for your benefit.
VESPA Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 From another part of this site is a link to the geometry and R numbers............ http://www.freetrackplans.com/Geometry.php
choralc Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I wonder if anyrail obtained permission? Parts list as follows: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a237/ex_kuranda_railway/7R%208x6%20parts%20list_zpsvicsh36e.jpg
Buz Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Hi guysA little common senseNo need to panic on copyright we are discusing Hornby's R7 plan on Hornby's own web site with the intentOf assisting some one to build said plan.We may be a bit late discussing it, but that was Hornby's orriginal intension for people to build their plans.I will throw a note of caution in for when it comes to building it.You need the R7 plan and the geometry chart from the plan book it came from, you also need the current geometry chart and current catalogue.Why because the plan will be eminantly buildable with Hornby's current product but the catalogue numbers may have changed over time,As have some of the products so first you need to make sure you have the right current part numbers for what you need to build it.Having made sure you have a list of current part numbers then its a case of getting them and building itregards John
VESPA Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Osborn models will supply all the track for the plan as one job lot. A few hundred pounds though. http://www.osbornsmodels.com/hornby-track-plans-in-a-box-957-c.asp
96RAF Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Got to disagree somewhat Buz - its not Hornby's web site.They are in fact derivations of Hornby plans - this quote from FreeTrackPlans webpage:These plans have been designed specifically for Hornby track, and are based on previous editions of the Hornby Track Plans manuals and catalogues from the 1970s to 1990s. These track plans are therefore covered by Hornby Hobbies Ltd copyright. You are welcome to construct these track plans for your own enjoyment, but the designs must not be copied or reproduced without Hornby Hobbies Ltd's prior written consent. Plain and simple - but they are free to be used as stated. I agree that modern track part numbers may have changed from those listed on the plans but generally they remain available under the old numbers. Also a note on the plans warns against some plans using 1st rad curves which may not be suitable for your rolling stock, so dont just build them blindly without checking.
Buz Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Got to disagree somewhat Buz - its not Hornby's web site.They are in fact derivations of Hornby plans - this quote from FreeTrackPlans webpage:These plans have been designed specifically for Hornby track, and are based on previous editions of the Hornby Track Plans manuals and catalogues from the 1970s to 1990s. These track plans are therefore covered by Hornby Hobbies Ltd copyright. You are welcome to construct these track plans for your own enjoyment, but the designs must not be copied or reproduced without Hornby Hobbies Ltd's prior written consent. Plain and simple - but they are free to be used as stated. I agree that modern track part numbers may have changed from those listed on the plans but generally they remain available under the old numbers. Also a note on the plans warns against some plans using 1st rad curves which may not be suitable for your rolling stock, so dont just build them blindly without checking. So from that the owner of this web site is also the copyright owner for plan R7 and any other interlectual property with the Hornby brand on it.Who designed the plans for people to build using their products, which in turn will result in sales from this discusionThe discusion Which in turn is covered by fair usage of matierial ie in this case research and planing to build a HornbyRailway using Hornby Product from Hornby's plan as was Hornby's orriginal intension in publishing the plan.OK Where is the Problem.Hornby is not going to bust a load of Hornby fans for discussing a Hornby Track plan on a Hornby owned Web site with the intension of helping some one build it using Hornby Product as they orriginaly intended it to be used.Its covered by fair usage.As we have no intent to profit copy distribute for any other purpose than assisting some one build the layoutagain covered by fair usage.The only profit from this discusion if there is any to be had will go to the copyright owner HornbyWell and truely covered under fair usageregards John
37lover Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Is someone planning to build a model railway, a mountain, or a molehill? I only raised my comment because I thought it was a bit unfair on Anyrail but it's snowballed!
Buz Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Is someone planning to build a model railway, a mountain, or a molehill? I only raised my comment because I thought it was a bit unfair on Anyrail but it's snowballed!True but a little common sense needed to be injectedThe Op wants to build it but the snow ball has probably put the fear of god into him.I don't think Anyrail would dare use Hornby's interlectual property with out propper concent they would be fools if they did.Hornby the company and the dyed in the wool Hornby fans would both have a go at them in different ways and anyrail would loose out big time.regards John
Tony57 Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Hi AndrewHaving looked through a CD I have got will Track plan Books 2 to 11. The only plan I found with a 8' x 6' base board is a Twin Inverted figure of 8 circuits in Plan Book 7 plan 18There is a plan in Book 5 Plan 17 of a 6'8" x 8' base board which is a long running single circuit.Hope you see this thread and it's the info you need.
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