G&SWR

[david_denham]

Did hornby ever do any steam loco in the Glasgow and Scottish west railway livery

thanks

Dave

[Buz]

Hi David 

Not as far as I know, I am hoping they will do the new industral 0-4-0 steamer as one.

since some one produced a picture of a real one in GSWR livery with a GSWR loco coal wagon

when the livery debate was on.

I am hoping they will do the loco coal wagon as well.

Other than the new Industrial loco which could be re painted

I don't know if any of the LMS ??  steamers Hornby have done are EX GSWR and could be back dated

might be worth checking.

regards John

[Postman Prat]

 

Hi David

 

I doubt Hornby will have applied this to anything. As far as I know they've done nothing for the G&SWR at all (open to correction)

They've only done 2 locos for the Caley and one for the NB, neither of which are anywhere near modern standards. I've been 'beating the drum' for Scottish locos as well as North Eastern for several years - they've finally listed the Q6 for 2016

All I can suggest is that you also 'beat the drum' but you will probably need lots of patience as well

 

[david_denham]

It is a sad day for my Mrs then and me if they had done could of spent some money without getting nagged

[LCDR]

 The 'Wessy' is very much a 'forgotten' railway, a lot of its lines now closed, and only one loco preserved and that an 0-6-0T.

Partner of the Midland Railway to provide the third Anglo-Scottish route, it was never as famous as the North British (East Coast route with GNR & NER) or Caledonian (West Coast route with LNWR) . However it was important in serving the Ayrshire coalfield (and still just about does) and of course the Anglo-Irish route via Stranraer.

Sadly it is much more likely to get a North British or Caledonian model loco made before the G&SWR, or the Highland or GNofSR either.

[Jimbo1707820979]

Mention of these Scottish lines brings to mind my re/media/tinymce_upload/e8e2fc760dda60accba16d102b840883.JPGcent buy on eBay of what is almost certainly a fake. However, it runs well and looks nice so I am happy to keep it (purists will throw up their hands in despair !). A picture attached - no smug remarks please.

[2e0dtoeric]

Looks like a Great Western small Prairie tank!

 

[david_denham]

So what engines  of run on this in the 1960s. As I am from Kent and know nothing of this area then but my wife is from Troon  and ramblers watching the trains go past in her youth but not what kind. Also what rolling stock would they have used maybe time to respiratory a loco that might have been used 

with thanks

Dave

 

[LCDR]

 The Glasgow & South Western Railway was 'grouped' into the London,Midland and Scottish Railway in 1923 and on Nationalisation was part of the Scottish Region, but with heavy 'Midland' influences. A lot of coal traffic was in the hands of Hughes Fowler 2-6-0s (AKA Crabs) . To give you some idea, in the 1950s Ayr loco shed 67C, had locos of the following classes, LMS Fowler 2P 4-4-0, LMS version of Midland Johnson 4P 3 cylinder Compound 4-4-0, LMS Hughes Fowler 5MT 2-6-0 'Crab', LMS Fairburn 4MT 2-6-4T, Caledonian McIntosh 782 class 0-6-0T, Caledonian 2F Standard Goods 0-6-0, Caledonian 812 class 0-6-0, WD 8F 2-8-0.  Undoubtedly LMS 5MT 4-6-0s and 5XP Jubilee class worked here too.

 

In the 1960s line closures and diesel rail cars had taken their toll, but coal was still in the hands of the Crabs, there were quite a few Black 5s on passenger, parcels and general goods, and BR Standard 4MT 2-6-0s had arrived.

[Jimbo1707820979]

Nice information, LC. Do you know what liveries the locos running out of the Ayr shed would have ? Was it ever the practice to run, say, LMS locos in their company livery for local lines in Scotland ?

[david_denham]

Thank you LC&DR your information is appreciated as always

[LCDR]

Nice information, LC. Do you know what liveries the locos running out of the Ayr shed would have ? Was it ever the practice to run, say, LMS locos in their company livery for local lines in Scotland ?

In the 1950s they would all be wearing BR liveries. Lined black for mixed traffic, plain black for freight.

Sorry, I do not have information about allocations before 1950.