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Hello everybody,its me again.Here's a quiz for you.

What,in todays Hornby range,owes its origins to original Tri-ang tooling?.Here we go,examples i can think of,are:

1.Trackside fencing packs.

2.Old slow coach in the Thomas range.

3.Station all over roof sections and platform accessories. 

4.Hydraulic buffer stop.

5.Lineside huts and gradient posts.

6.Clip together platform sections.

7.Grand victorian suspension bridge.

There must be others,im sure and full credit to the Tri-ang toolmakers of the time and full credit to Hornby fotr still producing them today.

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Also,i think that the driver and fireman included with most steam locos is from the original Tri-ang tooling,although in Tri-ang days the figures were supplied ready painted.

The diecast bases used on the semaphore signals are,i believe, also from Tri-ang tooling.

I wonder how much of the original Tri-ang tooling still exists.

I think that the front pony truck casting on the new crosti 9f is of original Tri-ang origin.

Some may think this to be a strange quiz,but i have a great interest in all things Tri-ang and Hornby.

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The original TRI-ANG track was series 3 and super 4 which bear no resmblance to System 6

My first Tri-ang Jinty train set, in about 1955, came with what became 'Standard' track after the introduction of Series Three track.  It had a grey base which emulated the trackbed.  

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Hello everybody,its me again.Here's a quiz for you.

What,in todays Hornby range,owes its origins to original Tri-ang tooling?.Here we go,examples i can think of,are:

1.Trackside fencing packs.

2.Old slow coach in the Thomas range.

3.Station all over roof sections and platform accessories. 

4.Hydraulic buffer stop.

5.Lineside huts and gradient posts.

6.Clip together platform sections.

7.Grand victorian suspension bridge.

There must be others,im sure and full credit to the Tri-ang toolmakers of the time and full credit to Hornby fotr still producing them today.

 

 

It is important to note that the tools have been modified over time, usuually to change the makers name, etc...

 

1. R.299. Lineside Fencing. Made in White Plastic. From 1963 (with Super 4 Track). Track clips are newer tooling.

 

2. GWR Clerestory Coach (Brake Coach). Made to go with The Lord Of The Isles. 1961.

 

3. The R.74 Overall Roof is a bit later. Tooled to replace the Hornby Dublo item. 1971. Platform Accessories, R.148, 1961.

 

4. The Hydraulic Buffer Stop was re-tooled later to fit System 6 Track, and is now grey. R.394 Cream Super 4 Track version, 1965.

 

5. Now parts of the Lineside Accessories Pack, R.574.

 

Lineside Huts. A set of 3. R.84. 1955. The doors have been re-tooled to remove the plank lines (later 1960s).

 

 Mile Posts. R.172. A set of 5. Numbered 1 to 5. Originally Heat Printed. Labels from 1964 in the R.587 Trackside Accessory Pack 1964-1969.

 

Gradient Posts. R173. A set of 4. Originally Heat Printed. Labels from 1964 in the R.587 Trackside Accessory Pack 1964-1969.

 

R.261 Whistle Signs. Originally a pack of 2. 1962-1963.  Always labels. From 1964 in the R.587 Trackside Accessory Pack 1964-1969.

 

R.478. Telegraph Poles. Set of 6 assorted. 1962-1965 (The track clips have been re-tooled)

 

R.479 Loading Gauge. 1962. (The track clip has been re-tooled)

 

R.88 Water Crane. Not old tooling, but an old number. The New R.88 is a new base, and the top section is from the Hornby Railways Turntable, R.410. 1977.

 

6. Platform Sections. Second Series. Most from 1962-3, with Super 4 Track. The sections have been re-tooled to have block work sides, and the moulding marks disguised as manholes.

 

7. R.264 Grand Victoria Suspension Bridge. (Orange cables) 1963. (And R. Extension Set R.269. 1963-1965)

 

Tri-ang Track. The dates of availability overlapped for quite some time!

 

“Universal” or “Standard” 1952-1958.

 

“Series 3”. 1958-1962.

 

“Super 4” 1962- 1970.

 

Series 5” Code 100 track. Not actually made as such…became System 6

 

“System 6” Code 100 Track dates from 1970-71…so just in the Tri-ang Hornby era.

 

The original Margate made track was quite different to today’s China made track. The design was changed at first when made by ROCO in Austria, 1970s…

 

Driver and Fireman. R.413. 1963.

 

Signals…

R.43H and R.43D Second Series Signals Metal base with fittings for plastic track clips. Single Signals from 1968. (All metal signals 1955-1967)

 

The same metal bases were used on the current 3rd Series Signals…

 

The “Lever Frame” switches are from the 1950s….

 

The original tools used for “Devious Diesel” shunter TTE Series, are from the original Diesel Shunter. 1950s, as are the tools modified into “James”, from the R.251 “Deeley” 0-6-0 Loco…

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tri-ang Railways "Utility Van"...From 1958 with the MK2b Couplings...originally in BR Maroon and Southern Region Green.

 

Yes, the base model is the same as the special set model (which was also made "solo" a few years ago, which is when I got mine!)

 

The old Tri-ang Cattle Wagon was a long term model as well! 1956, then via a Sheep Wagon, into th eThomas Range...

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There have been a few different Turntables.

 

The first, R.45 for Standard Track from the1950s only has one entrance and one exit, and "just" turns Locos around...

 

The second, for Super 4 Track was a good one (Blue Peter had one on their layout!).

This has one entrance, and three exits. It was available "Hand Operated" (R.407), and electric drive (R.408). A conversion kit (X.319) was available to convert the Hand Operated version to electric drive.

Later (Early 1970s) versions (R.408U) came packed with four "Converter Tracks" so that it could be used with System 6 Track. (Also lamp posts and fences...)

The final version had code 100 System 6 rails only.

 

The first Hornby "Geneva" gear drive turntable, R.410, is also Hand Operated, with a conversion kit available for a time (R.411). The electric version (R.412) became the only version later on.

This had one entrance and eight exits.

 

The new version, R.414, has one entrance, and up to thirteen exits.

Possibly 1980s?

The latest version is R.070.

There is a Service Sheet for this version, 175 dated September 1995.

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Update with some dates from Pat Hammond's books...

The first Hornby "Geneva" gear drive turntable, R.410 (1977-1981), is also Hand Operated, with a conversion kit available for a time (R.411 1977-1990). The electric version (R.412) became the only version later on.

This had one entrance and eight exits.

 

The new version, R.414 1982-1993, has one entrance, and up to thirteen exits.

 

The latest version is R.070.(1994-)

There is a Service Sheet for this version, 175 dated September 1995.

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I think the added blockwork on he hornbyplatform units came in around tyhe late 1970s, my original trainset (GWR Freight set 975 I think) had smooth sided platforms but I think it had the manhole cover though.

 

Also isn't Hornby's steam breakdown crane triang? I have a couple of th Doubleo ones and they are much better looking. I just wih I could change the wheels on one of them so it would run on my present layout (flanges too course)

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The Hornby Platforms were Re-tooled in 1974. The new tool had the blockwork and manhole covers.

(From Pat Hammond's Books...)

 

The Large Crane, R.739,came in in 1971, just making it into Tri-ang Hornby days...This one was a Red model.

 

The Small Crane, R.127, was Tri-ang Railways, from 1962.

 

Made in Brown, then Red, then Yellow.... It is actually based on a real crane!

 

The Hornby Dublo Crane is good.

 

The wheels on the small wagons could possibly be changed relatively easily, as they are held in by tabs, but the main crane would need the sub-frame removing, and that is held on with two "rivet" like metal "spinnings" (I think that is the correct term?)

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 Just been trying to find why one of my B12s keeps derailing and realised that some of it is possibly of Triang origin, particularly the culpret - those horrible tender wheels! exactly the same on my Lord Westwood.

 

The ones fitted to the B12 have now been consigned to my restoration bit box and a pair of old Mainline GWR ones substituted.

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Looks like ive started something here :-),also,

1.The brake van body on the Railroad br 20ton brake van is Tri ang in oregin.

2.Old slow coach in the Thomas range is also Tri ang.

3.The freightliner (2 container version) wagon in the Railroad range is also Tri ang in origin. 

4.The "through to the continent "wagons which are available on pre order for later in the year are also ex Tri ang.

5.The Coke wagons with 3 seperate planks at the top are ex Tri ang

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