Chrissaf Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 An interesting observation Ray has made. The 'Ask to set points=1' line is shown in the RM manual. I have however, just looked at my working copy of "railmaster.ini" and the line is completely missing. Not set to =0, but completely missing altogether. OK I don't have Cobalts, but the my points do go through the start up initialisation routine with the latest fixed update RM file, automatically without being asked..Given Hairy Chris says his Cobalts do (apparently) attempt to initialise on start up. I wonder if having this line in the railmaster.ini file AND having the check box ticked in 'System Settings' creates confusion within RM..If the line is present in PJ's 'railmaster.ini' file I would try deleting it altogether and seeing if the Cobalts then initialise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ_model_trains Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 HRMS / Ray Yes that's the one! I have changed it to '0' and re-started RM.The popup message has now gone. This just leaves the issue that my Cobalt Slow Action point Motors DO NOT set when RM is started. (eLink) As confirmed in a past message, they didn't work at start up in RM 1.64 either. >>> HRMS please consider this a fault reported. Thank you ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 But what happens if you delete the entry completely.....just clutching at straws here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ngr4y Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 One more nail in the coffin of the INI file, and bringing these parameters inside RM itself.Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just set up my elink and my cobalt motors set on start up. I'll set up the elite as soon as i've posted this.Perhaps there is something different in my ini file so here's a copy of it. Tipper speed=80Tipper timer=86.4Turntable speed=40Turntable timer=23.56Points timer=0.75Conveyor speed=65TCP start port=32Check serial ports=1Show upgrade button=1Allow deactivate=1Use default curves=1Polling time=5Confirm delete=1Classic buttons=1Show point indicators=1Uncoupler time=5Detection Timeout=5Button bar vertical=0Throttle timer=5Handheld plan area=1,1,135,135Program tick sound=1PING time=60Reset eLink on start=1Check controller=0Enable mouse=1Warn static IP=1Load Hornby locos=1Point button arrows=0Spoken confirmation=0Controllers on top=1Alternative comms=1Elite feedback=1 RegardsChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just set up the elite and no joy. On start up some cobalts drive the points and some don't, but all operate normally when the appropriate button is pressed. As a work around I recorded a program to set the points in their starting positions. Regards and confusedChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hi Chris The whirl noise you mention is when the point is trying to change but realises it is in the correct position. If you change your points so they are not at start up positions Chris, then close RM and re-start it, you should find the points change to start up position (I say this as you get the whirl noise - I do not get any noise). You may like to try this and confirm the outcome.Hi PJ, I can see the logic of your thinking, but the points do not change even though I get the whirring noise of them trying to drive and then stalling, but they operate normally at all other times. I tried deleting the ini file so that RM would rebuild it on startup to see if that made a difference, it made a big difference.................RM would not load. Reinstalled Sundays download and set it up for the elink, and as previously posted it all works, the points and signals set to their start positions. This is using the elink, I haven't been able to get the elite to behave properly. RegardsChris set to their start positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ_model_trains Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Hi Chris I will compare ini file data tomorrow. My layout is back up doing signals and feathers. I have buttons on the layout which start programs1 - set points to start up positions2 - set signals to start up positions3 - set all feather/route indicators Off Thanks for the info. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ_model_trains Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Regarding my Cobalt Slow Atction Point Motors... NONE set to start up positions, they don't even whirl as when a point is in the right position. (eLink) Strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just check your points right click box to see that you have the correct controller selected A or B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ_model_trains Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Hi RAF96 All points are set to A. They do work, manually and in programs, if this setting was incorrect they wouldn't work at all. It is only when starting RM that they do not work, they do not set to start up settings. Thanks for your comments, everything is worth checking and/or trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The only thing left and it has been mentioned before is that if the firing order is set to zero they wont proof fire, and you can only resort them or leave some at zero in PRO. From memory not-PRO will default the firing order to that which you planted them on plan in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ_model_trains Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 AND HERE IS THE ANSWER TO THE ISSUE OF POINTS NOT FIRING AT START UP!!! All 24 my Cobalt Slow Action Point Motors were added at the same time, install one, check it works then rattle through and add them all setting the direction required one by one. In doing so no order was given for the firing order, the space was 'blank' not a zero, not a number, as a result start up didn't know what to do. I have not visually checked this as my layout is upended as I am wiring in feathers to signals today. But having numbered them all starting at number 1, then restarted RM, I can hear the short whirl from those already in the right position, and the longer sound for those changing. Many thanks to ALL who have made suggestions and to RAF96 for hitting the nail on the head. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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