Ben_T Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Hello all.I have searched and searched for an answer to this one, and I know one of you will be able to put your finger on a video or website that will help me.I have a Hornby Flying Scotsman purchased in March this year and I now want to install a a sounds decoder and speaker. The tender has a cut out in the bottom for the speaker, but I have no idea how to go about getting the connection to the track.One way I thought of doing it was to use a standard decoder in the engine, and a sound decoder in the tender with the same address, but that still doesn't help me with the connection to the track.Your thoughts are greatly appreciatedBen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 You will already have pickup connections running from tender to the loco via the tender post as part of the standard set up for the loco. Now of course, you need to run 4 wires for pickups loco to tender and motor wires tender to loco. There is a standard plug and socket available for this and someone will be along soon with the part numbers, or you could check the service sheet for a TTS loco and they will be on it. There is no need or is it desirable to run 2 decoders if you want to achieve coordinated movement and sound. You will have to be able to do some fine soldering. The neatest way to do it will be to mount a decoder socket in the tender which then is wired back to the one in the loco via the 4 wires plug and socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamDavid Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 What is the R number of your loco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 are you sure the decoder socket is in the locomotive not the tender ? Whats the model number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 If its the latest Railroad one, motor is in the loco. The older version, has it mounted in the tender, but it was changed, as they tend to slip. I think you will have the newer one. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 In the RailRoad version, motor is in the engine.......in the SET Version, the motor & 8 pin socket are in the engine..........in the full spec model the motor is in the engine but the 8 pin decoder socket and speaker mount are in the tender.......older versions had a Ringfield motor in the tender.........HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Howbiman, high my older one is in a set, with motor in the tender. Had it about 10 years. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Aaahh.....that'll be an antique Set then..... 😀.........HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_T Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Hello All,Thank you for your replies so far.I don't know the actual R number for the loco but it is the one from the "set" purchased early in 2016. Its not the railroad one.The motor and decoder socket are both in the loco, not the tender.Could someone advise what is meant by the tender post, I'm somewhat confused by that!What I didn't want was to have cables running between the loco and tender, hence my idea to use two decoders. Having said that if that's the best way that's what I'll do.Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Look at the service sheet for a typical DCC Ready FS and you will see the tender has a vertical peg or post that hooks into a flexible drawbar on the loco. This drawbar has two springy fingers that carry current across between the loco and tender. often these fingers get distorted and can cause a short when the loco goes away from straight ahead. if you want to retain the decoder in the loco then just extend the TTS speaker wires into the tender if you cant figure out a place for maybe a replacement sugar cube speaker in the loco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_T Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Thank you for that. I'll do a bit more research!Many thanksBen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just for clarity, the current set FS is in fact the Railroad version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_T Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Ah, well if it is the railroad version that would explain a lot. I am surprised though as the detail looks great and I always believed that railroad was a less superior version!eother way, I have had a good look at the loco and can conf there is no spring on the coupling, no way of the DCC signal passing from loco to tender.So what is the best way of getting DCC into the tender along with a speaker in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 wires, plug and socket as previously mentioned. I would also be checking to see if there are pickups running on the back of the tender wheels together with wiring to go to a motor or decoder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Also, to check we are in fact talking the right FS, do a product not forum search for FS which should bring up the Railroad version including service sheet HSS380. Is that the model you have? Clearly there are no tender pickups, unlike the set version I bought a few years back. Then I also can't see a speaker cutout shown in the tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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