Madmike Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 The new r3579that is coming out this year is this unit going too have extra coachs and does anyone the numbers thank for any help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 What's a R3579. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 What's a R3579. That's the product number of an unreleased Hornby product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just type R3579 into the site search box at the top, not the forum search box at the bottom, and all will be revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I know how the site works. if someone wants help I don't mind looking for the answer. But I am not looking for the question as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahBunyan Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 The new r3579that is coming out this year is this unit going too have extra coachs and does anyone the numbers thank for any help #1 A slightly better description would've been better, no I'm not lazy to search for R3579 but a better, fuller description will be better. #2 No it will not have coaches to go with as it's basically a PR set and it's just the powercars. If you want a unit with the coaches, there's always the GWR branded one. The livery carried by these powercars was only for a special occasion. #3 As there's no coaches, no one can provide any product codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 No coaches will not be getting released for this Class 800 Train Pack. This Train Pack is a OO Gauge model of the real life prototype, which was built to test them to see if they would, before they were built and painted in GWR livery. No coaches were built when the protyotyoe was built, becasuse it would be a waste of time and a waste of money. When a testing a high-speed train prototype's, all you need are the two driving trailer's coupled together and that was the exact thing done with the Class 800, in real life. Hence the fact Hornby are not releasing any extra coaches, for this Train Pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Oh, that Japanese thing - Hitachi IEP Bi-Mode Class 800/0 DPTS & DPTF Test Train Power Units Train Pack - Limited Edition - that looks rather like something that has no place on a railway forum!That makes seven posts just to find out what the O/P was on about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 What's the matter with the Hitachi Class 800? Why dosen't it belong on a model railway forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM6 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 What's the matter with the Hitachi Class 800? Why dosen't it belong on a model railway forum?The loco is fine on here, but Eric said it resembled "something that shouldn't".I am told they are usually battery powered. 😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 It is. I can't wait for the model to get released. I want to see how the model will look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 You may not get the opportunity to see one in the model shop because this is a limited edition of just 500 and could well all be reserved by Pre-Orders so if you really want one you should get your order in now......... 😀.......HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I don't mean the Limited Edition pack. I mean that proper Five Car Pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slornie Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 No coaches will not be getting released for this Class 800 Train Pack. This Train Pack is a OO Gauge model of the real life prototype, which was built to test them to see if they would, before they were built and painted in GWR livery. No coaches were built when the protyotyoe was built, becasuse it would be a waste of time and a waste of money. When a testing a high-speed train prototype's, all you need are the two driving trailer's coupled together and that was the exact thing done with the Class 800, in real life. Hence the fact Hornby are not releasing any extra coaches, for this Train Pack. Actually, the driving trailers in the 800 series are unpowered - the motors are all underfloor in the middle carriages. In reality the contents of the R3579 set would be unable to move under their own power (although Hornby's model follows the norm of having motors in the driving trailers). Hitachi class 800 article (pdf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Slorie, when you say the coaches are powered and not the driving trailers, are talking about the unreleased Hornby model, or the real-life train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_ Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Slorie, when you say the coaches are powered and not the driving trailers, are talking about the unreleased Hornby model, or the real-life train?The full size 800 have, as far as I am aware, unpowered driving trailers. The Diesel engines and the traction motors are in the carriages. The Hornby models have a motor in one of the driving trailers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 For a modern day train I have to admit that I wouldn't say no to one. They do look like a excellent model. However I will not be ordering one. Nothing against it, other than me keeping costs down for the hobby and only buying what I find useful to the period I model. I do hope they sell well and encourage Hornby to produce more for the modern day modelers. Aren't all coaches motored. With the motors underslung giving power to the bogies each side of its own Coach. It was done this way for multiple reasons one you can use smaller motors and two even if you have a failure it won't enterrupt the journey. Plus speed when replacement of a motor is needed. It can be just dropped out and a new one jacked back into place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_ Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Aren't all coaches motored. With the motors underslung giving power to the bogies each side of its own Coach. It was done this way for multiple reasons one you can use smaller motors and two even if you have a failure it won't enterrupt the journey. Plus speed when replacement of a motor is needed. It can be just dropped out and a new one jacked back into place As an example, The current Class 43 HST has two power cars with Diesel engines generating electricity to power electric motors driving the power car axles and has a rake of unpowered coaches, so many, many trains have unpowered coaches .The 5 car 800 has three Diesel engines, one beneath each of the 3 coaches. The diesel engines again drive electric generators and the electricity powers electric motors driving each of the axles. There is a power bus running between the coaches to get power to all 3 coaches when the Diesel engines are off and the pantograph is up. It also means that all axles can still be powered if a Diesel engine fails. More powered axles means more tractive effort, I.e. Better acceleration and less slippage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Yep I understand that. Is it the class800 thats planed to replace the the class 43. And will the 800 run longer than just 5car sets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_ Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Yep I understand that. Is it the class800 thats planed to replace the the class 43. And will the 800 run longer than just 5car setsThe 800 is being built in two configurations, 5 car with 3 Diesel engines and 9 car with 5 Diesel engines and can be powered either from the diesel engines or from overhead power. Two 5 car units can be coupled together to make a 10 car unit But with no passnger connection from one half to the otherThe 801 comes in 5 car with 1 Diesel engine and 9 car with 2 Diesel engines. In normal operation these are electric only from overhead power, the Diesel engine being for emergency use such as during a overhead power failure or during yard manoeuvring were no overhead is available.The 802 is the same as the 800 except the diesel engines have been uprated to produce more power to cope with the hills in Devon and Cornwall. The 800s may now end up having their power uprated to match the 802s, so then there will be no difference between the 800 and the 802 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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96RAF Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 JacobIf you look at the specs for this train you will see the differences in horse power between the generator units (engines) used on the various types and with Nicks additional explanation now we can see why. Horses for courses as they say.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 The full size 800 have, as far as I am aware, unpowered driving trailers. The Diesel engines and the traction motors are in the carriages. The Hornby models have a motor in one of the driving trailers The motor in the model could be in the middle coach though. Some of Bachmann's high-speed trains are like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 For accuracy of information...........In the R3514 five car set the single motor is in the DPTS trailer...........similarly in the R3579 two car set...........HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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