Jeff Mennell Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I have a H & M Duettw which has 12v output 'sockets' Thing is, as you prob know the 'sockets' are just 2 holes. How on earth does one plug electrical accessories into these? What sort of plug would fit? Ideas please?! Many thanks (in advance)Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Question has been asked before....see this previous post.https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/brass-connectors-for-16v-socket/#post-207903 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Thanks Chris. Do you think 2mm banana plugs would fit? The 'proper' plugs as you know are unobtainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Towards the end of that post, the general consensus was that the most ideal connector was the 3.5mm split pin connector that are no longer made (see my photo on the second page). As the replies in that post also indicate, some (but not all) 4mm Banana plug designs can fit but may be a tight fit. Based upon those documented statements, then maybe the 2mm Banana will be too loose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Yes but the 3mm banana plugs didn't seem to fit either hence my idea about using a 2mm one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Having looked at the 3mm Banana plug product description more closely. It appears that they are actually 4mm Banana plugs designed for 3mm diameter wire. Somewhat confusing to say the least..How many of these plugs do you need ?Are you UK based ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Prob 4. 2 black and 2 red............. was thinking of lighting me new engine shed and having yard lights. Assume I would need to create a sort of bus with connectors. Just need to get the power from the H & M! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 If you are based in the UK (due to postage costs) I am willing to send you two 3.5mm split pin red & two 3.5mm split pin black from my stock for free..Email your postal address to Adam [forum@hornby.com] and ask him to forward it to my forum registered address that he has for me. And I will send you two pairs by return of mail.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Jeff, now in possession of your postal address. Will put connectors in post tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Ok, many thanks Chris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doc Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Probably a bit late now if Chrissaf has already posted them, but I have a very low-tech solution to this. I just strip the insulation off the last half inch of wire and use a short piece of cocktail stick to hold the bare wire in place in the socket. It's reliable and cheaper than the cost of postage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Doc, good idea ta. Thing is, I wanted a 'proper' plug as I get fed up with train electrics, (on my layout), being unreliable. For example, I have a Hornby power clip which is wobbly and it periodically causes inconvenience so it gets on my nerves! I just wanted if poss to avoid yet another 'Jeff bodge job'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Is this thread about the R8012 HM2000 Power Controller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 No.Go back to page 1 of this thread and my first reply gives a link to click. Follow the link and you will find a photo of the controller in question. It predates the HM2000 (that uses spring terminals) by many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 For future readers. I thought I would give Google one last try and found these 3mm Pin Connectors. Just cover the wire crimp part with some 'Heat Shrink Tubing' and the result should look quite professional.http://www.autosparks.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/200x200/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/C/8/C831-1.jpghttp://www.autosparks.co.uk/electrical-components/plugs-connectors/pin-socket-plugs/3mm-pin-connector.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I looked at this thread too late to be of assistance, really, as I don't use H+M or dc, but model aircraft powered by lithium polymer batteries use 'bullet' connectors (amongst others!). They come in various sizes from 2 - 3 - 4 - mm and probably larger.Find them at your local model shop (that does aircraft or cars) or e-bay, etc.Plugs and sockets are available, usually in packs of 10, and not very expensive.You will need to be able to solder, and they need heat-shrink sleeving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWR-Gordon-4 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 No.Go back to page 1 of this thread and my first reply gives a link to click. Follow the link and you will find a photo of the controller in question. It predates the HM2000 (that uses spring terminals) by many years. OK, I see now Chris. All I read in the main post of this thread, was someone one taking about their duett controller and this thread is called 'Hammant & Morgan', so I assumed it must be about the HM2000 Power Controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle-Man Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2e0doeric mentioned the connectors used for model helicopters etc. for connecting the battery. I have recently ordered some of these (3mm Gold Bullet Connectors / Banana Plugs For RC Car/Truck/Drone Lipo Battery) specifically to try with H&M controllers and the 16v AC socket. When they arrive I will see if they are any good and feed back to the forum. The ones I have ordered are here. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122423609247?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle-Man Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just to say that I have some of the pins that connect the slave controller to the main controller via the 12v DC socket. They have a little kink in the middle and to be homes are not a particularly tight fit. Neither do they have a slit down the middle or any spring type mechanism to keep them tight and in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Pullman Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Here is a picture or two of the original items in situ and loose - as you can see no big deal. The crank stops you pushing it all the way through.Roger/media/tinymce_upload/638dd2f760cb61a51b6ac14573f3c053.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/58792b9d2421ae5dc940ca32aaa21fc9.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle-Man Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 The 3mm plugs that I posted about arrived today. They area a perfect fit for the H&M sockets. Push in easily and can be withdrawn without too much pressure. The length is perfect as well. Once in you have the small collar area still protruding to make them easier to remove.You have to solder the wire but that is not an issue. With the normal small size of layout cable you will possibly want to feed it in sideways and solder in the end rather like you do with a speaker/amp banana plug. If you were using larger wire 2-3mm then you possibly could feed it straight down the end then feed the bare wire out through the side hole and solder. If you make a tidy job then shrink wrap is probably not needed although it would also act as a grip for the cable but given the different sizes not sure how you would make that tidy especially if you side feed.These are an ideal solution if you want to use the sockets to feed wire to accessories. You could also use them if you want to use the 12v DC for a controller etc. but would definately wire with thick wire in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 For convenience, just making Castle-Man's link clickable:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122423609247?_- shortened URL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle-Man Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary789 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I made mine from 2 nails, Had to make a bracket to hold both controlers together. Not ideal but has worked for the last 35 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Mennell Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 Chris, the plugs arrived this morning. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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