Evzone Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I think it’s been answered elsewhere, so forgive me, but can someone confirm that you can use analogue cars with the ARC Pro? If so, what are the limitations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P. Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 You can switch ARC PRO into analog mode with a switch on the base which essentially turns it into ARC AIR.All the usual limitatiuons of analog apply:Only 2 carsLane switching only in pairs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evzone Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 You can switch ARC PRO into analog mode with a switch on the base which essentially turns it into ARC AIR.All the usual limitatiuons of analog apply:Only 2 carsLane switching only in pairs etc.Thanks Andy, much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blagard-01 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 By lane switching I would qualify that means the crossover track sections not the lane changers (which do not work in Analogue mode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P. Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I mean these crossover tracks:https://www.scalextric.com/uk-en/shop/track/extension-packs/scalextric-track-extension-pack-1.htmlPart C8203 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evzone Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Got my set today..... early days but I think I’m liking it, apart from having difiiculty running analogue cars on it with the device selected to air. As I said early days, but its given me a headache so I’ve given it a chequred flag for the night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blagard-01 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 What difficulty running analogue cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evzone Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 What difficulty running analogue cars?Well, I set the consol to air, and collaborated cars and still couldn’t get them to work. Eventually, one car did work, How i dont know, shifted the crossovers tracks to run straight and off it went. Apart from that one instance not one out of 4 analogun cars worked.As an aside:1. I followed the track plans with the full extension set minus the silly jump, and after an hour or so, disregarded the instructions as the bend after the arc base wouldn’t flattenand did my own thing!2. One of the cars has already got a broken rear spoiler, even though I’ve been mega gentle.3. Initially pace car mode was excellent, regulating speed and keeping the car on track. Now I can’t keep any of the 4 car supplied to stay on in one piece. Back to it tomorrow to iron out the issues........ ho hum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorp Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 if parts break off toys it is because you broke them not scalyspoilers are removed here switching from digital to analog my wayturn off powerbase turn off app and controllersswitch from digital to analogturn on powerbase and controllersat this point analog should function nowto open changers run digital toys in reverse around track lanesnow turn on app if you require it without using app for analogif one car runs on both lanes and another does not on either laneproblem is not arc pro but the carfirst check the 2 piece guy for proper installation and the braids for proper position to make contact with the railsif 1 lane does not function with all cars check track assembly for proper connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 The arc pro just doesn't work well for analog cars..I can't get them to stop the high pitched humming when they move..it hurts my ears. I have tried everything I know..I live in the usa. Also..the analog cars do not register laps when passing by the power base. I think I am going to return the arc pro back to hornby and reinstall my arc one which worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'm an avid collector of vintage scalextric cars..got over 100..the arc pro is hopeless with analog cars. I would advise not to get it and to get the arc one which works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorp Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 from what have read the theory is the regulated dc that is running arc pro affects different kinds of motors differently and causes the hummingmy scaly analog are ok but the strombeckers sing - can live with it here since digital is primary usebut wonder if glad analog would quiet them since is run under digital power - will have to test that sometime cars must have black guides to be counted by arc pro lapcounterwith powerbase in front of you and powerbase track behind, car must pass right to left to be counted since running digital and analog without app, just use standard discontinued scaly analog lap counter here - got off ebay - guide color does not matter but believe direction , right to left does to clear digital lane changers on analog just run digital toy around couple times in opposite direction on both analog lanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P. Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 We have been using ARC AIR with analog for over a year with great success. (which is essentially what an analog ARC PRO is) .We use the App at all times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Hi Gorp....thanks for replying...what do you mean by "black guides"...are you referring to the plastic fin that goes into the slot?..all my cars have black fins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorp Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 your black fins are black guide shoes aka guidessaw somone just posted that arc air also humsdo know arc one does not hum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I just reinstalled my old Arc-One on my custom track. Much better...simply put, DO NOT get the Arc-Pro if you run analog cars, especially vintage ones. I love Scalextric..but the Arc-Pro is useless for me. Analog fans stay away from this unit! I also advise Hornby to put a warning on the box that states this power base is not for analog cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P. Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Begs the question what advantage you see in using ARC ONE over ARC AIR?ARC AIR is the ultimate in analog racing and ARC PRO includes ARC AIR plus if you desire digital lane changing and a few features.I have both ARC ONE and ARC AIR and I find ARC AIR vadstly superior and well worth the money, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Hi Andy...I got the arc-pro because it was supposed to be the latest and greatest. I have not tested an arc-air but now I am hesitant to do so. As I have said before, the Arc-pro is not compatible at all with analog and vintage cars...all my cars have a high pitched hum which is intolerable (I gave over 100 cars..all scalextric). The cars also do not register laps consistently (they all have black ghides) and lastly the contrillers are "twitchy".also..I have hooked up my old arc-one back to my track..works flawlessly..love it. Plus it has great response time between the controllers and cars and I can easily adjust the speed for the little ones. No humming and keeps track of laps acuraltely. Only negative is they are wired To base. This is an awesome product!! Especially for the collector.I am hoping Hornby AMerica does the right thing And credit my card..as I have returned the arc-pro over 4 weeks ago. Still have seen no credit on my card..:(I am very hesitant to try the Arc-air. Don't want to go thru the same nightmare as I did with the arc-pro.cheers,Scaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_C Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Hi there, I have an ARC AIR and an ARC PRO. From my investigations, the ARC AIR uses a transistor as a simple analog device hence works extremely well with both old and new analog cars as well as digital cars when running in analog mode. Meanwhile the ARC PRO uses a technique known as pulse width modulation (PWM) for its analog mode. This varies the time duration of full voltage pulses in order to adjust power to the motor. There are good reasons for using this technique as the same output circuits can be used for both digital and analog. This works very well in most cases. So basically... the two bases use completely different techiques to achieve analog control.My suggestion would be to give the ARC AIR a chance... I just tried mine with a 1960’s DB4 and all seemed good ... except for the excessive tyre skid because I was using the wrong type of track... and, of course, the white 1960’s guide pins don’t trigger the lap sensors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaley Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just a quick update...I want to say a special thankyou to the good folks at scalextric for trying to help me with the arc-pro. Also, they refunded my money promptly when I returned the arc-pro.I am still using my arc-one...absolutely love it..great product. Best feature is the ability to control the speed with the controllers for kids. Also, its very simple to use.Thanks,too, for everyone here for giving me advise and help.Cheers,Scaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haybaler Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I've got a similar issue. I have a mixture of analogue and digtial cars and everyting works fine with Arc Pro in digital mode but I can only get the outside (red controller) lane, nearest the power base, to work to in analogue mode. I've tried all the instructions here, everything in the user guide, power transformer via either input socket, unpairing and pairing controllers etc but nothing works. All cars 'jolt' a bit when I pair the (blue) controller with the inside lane which suggests there is power intially but nothing works. Switch back to didigtal and everything is fine for digital cars.Seems to me that I might have a dead lane in analaogue? I had a lane switching section which I've swapped out for straight track so there can be no issues with known digitial lane change problems but it makes no difference.Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcote Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Hi Haybaler - welcome to the forum. For analogue, you need one controller paired with red and another paired with green. Those are the only two pairings that will work with analogue mode - green with the inside lane and red with the outside. Sounds like you did that, but it’s worth checking again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haybaler Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Hi Haybaler - welcome to the forum. For analogue, you need one controller paired with red and another paired with green. Those are the only two pairings that will work with analogue mode - green with the inside lane and red with the outside. Sounds like you did that, but it’s worth checking again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haybaler Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Thanks for the advice Woodcote. That's actually sorted it so I'm very happy!Nowhere was I able to find any notification that you need to have red and green lanes paired for analogue to work (it doesn't say that in the instruction book!) but as the led's are adjacent to each other on the ARC Pro base I guess that makes sense if you imagine the other led's don't exist for analogue mode.I think it was having a 'blue' controller that threw me and I just hadn't thought about pairing it to a differnt colour.Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P. Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Thanks for the info!I have seen some users making a compendium for all things ARC PRO at the slotracer forum. This should be added methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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