Bulleidboy Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I have asked this question on other forums, but assumed there would be more Elite users on this forum? I have used a TCS direct fitting decoder in almost all of my loco's, however they are getting more expensive. The Liverpool shop has there own version, which is considerably cheaper, and get good reports, but it says on their site that it doesn't always work so well with "some" Hornby controllers. Has anyone used these decoders with an Elite, and did it work well. Many thansk. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 BB, I have used Google's Advanced Search to find all forum posts which have these three words in them....Hattons & Decoder & Elite. Click the link to see the search results..For all readers, what I have done above can be done by anybody and completely overcomes the inadequacies of the inbuilt Hornby Forum search function..How to use the Google Advanced Search to find forum posts is covered in TIP 10 of my 'How to get the best out of this forum' tutorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 The important thing to note when reading the posts gleaned from the hits found by the search is the dates they were posted and the kit revision states in play at the time as for many of the posts much water has passed under the bridge and those posts are fairly meaningless now, although they do make a firm statement about how things were then. I think you will find at the latest revisions any Hornby kit works well with most other manufcaturers kit. If it doesn’t then please provide all the detail required and it will be passed to Hornby for investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 THanks to you both - I should have Googled it before asking on here - I usually do. I just thought the quick answer would be "Yes I have an Elite and I use these decoders - there fine". BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 The potential issue was that you didn't specify exactly which Hatton's decoder by model number. If I recall correctly, I don't think past reported issues affected all of the Hattons decoder models, only some of them. Hence why I searched the forum for all potential hits. However, it is possible that my memory is mixing up Hattons brand with Gaugemaster's..Wait a bit longer and check back to see. You might still get a 'I have 'issues / no issues' with that combination' response. But this is perhaps more likely to happen if you were to specifiy the Hattons decoder model number you are interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 @BBIt may also be worthwhile checking with Hattons if their Decoders are compatible with the Elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 @RDS - as I noted some time back in discussion with Hattons - they would not provide data to allow investigation nor would they drop their caveat as they could not guarantee compatibility. Bit of a head in the sand stale mate, so folk have to do their own assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I think I have used all sorts of makes of decoders with my Elite and they definitely work as DCC decoders. I assume the issue may come with reading and writing CV values as these are probably critical with timing. I know that the Elite does not always get it right with even Hornby's own modules as if you try to read the Manufacturers id the Elite sometimes reads it sometimes returns a value, sometimes not. So perhaps the reason that there is an issue is that they cannot gaurantee the reading and writing of CV values. Currently all my decoders are set at standard as I am still building my layout, so I have not tried reading and writing CVs with all the decoders. I do know they are all different at interpreting the signal especially over dirty track (the LaisDCC ones occasionally go backwards), but you would expect that as probably the software implentation in them is different. I have a Hattons decoder in one of my A4's it is a 9 pin (yes really old failed standard) so I will check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Colin, while related, you problem is different. You too can do a Google search to find the previous content on how to improve your Elite's reading and writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 This is the decoder - Hattons Originals DCR-8PIN-Direct8-pin compact direct 4-function 1.1Amp decoder with back EMFDCC Ready. 8-pin socket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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