Tomwilliams123 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Hello there,I recently acquired a 1960s vintage triang belmond Pullman train, the motor runs very well but there is a problem when it is on the track which is that the wheels on the driving bogey have flanges which are too large and they catch on the sleepers, this is annoying because I would like to run this train but I can't because of this problem, is there a way I could either grind down the wheels so they don't cause this problem or change them out completely for a different set, I am not willing to replace the track because I've literally just completed it all ab it's all great!Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 As you said yourself, the problem is the 1960's standard of coarse wheels and modern track.Youy "could" try grinding down every wheel on the complete set, but may still find that the train 'trips up' on every point, because the wheels not only had bigger flanges, but were thicker, and probably will short out on the frogs, if they don't get stuck!You have two options - put the train in a cabinet, and enjoy looking at it, or raid the junk-shops, etc, and find decent old track, and make a layout just for old loco's.You may also find that your controller keeps tripping out, if it is a modern one, as old motors took more power.That's a problem that keeps getting posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Ultrascale offer replacement finescale wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog RJ Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Replacement wheels might cost more than the loco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke 71000 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Replacement wheels - Ultrascale probably around £6.75 per axle. This assumes there are driving cogs on the old pullman train model axles. In which case you have to take the new wheels off their axles and push them onto the old axle. As a result you must ascertain in millimetres the diameter of the axles of your old model, and check that the replacements are designed for that axle diameter ! You will also need what is called a "Back to Back" gauge to ensure the new wheels are exactly the right distance apart when fitted. Or the model train may continue to derail...... The Duke 71000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rana Temporia Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 There was a very similar question to this one earlier in the week. Hornby did make some compatible fine scale wheels for this loco in the last version of the Tri-ang DMU that they released. However, they are quite difficult to find. The version of the DMU is the one with the big square indicator above the cab (i think it says A7) which is totally non-prototypical for this class of DMU. If it's working the power bogie is a straight swap but you'll have to disconnect the wires that go to the bulbs in the indicator boxes on the DMU. If it's not working the wheels are a drop in but make sure the plastic bushes are on the same side as the pick-up. If you do go for the Ultrascale option (they are very good but expensive IMO) the axles are the standard Tri-ang drive axles as used on their steam locos but again, make sure the insulated wheels are on the side of the pick-up on the bogie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomwilliams123 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just an update to the situation:I have just sent an E-mail to Ultrascale about the driving wheels on the bogie and am awaiting a reply.I will be going into my local model shop Tomorrow to see if they have any 12.2mm Hornby wheels that I can retrofit to the non-driving bogies of the train. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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