Paint for Hornby Stephensons Rocket 3.5”

[Colroy]

Hi

i have a Hornby Stephensons Rocket 3.5" gauge steam train and I want to paint the tender, can anyone tell me where I can get the paint?

[atom3624]

It looks pretty close to the Tamiya yellow I have.

I would also check Halfords - many 'auto paints' can be an equivalent to many railway companies' liveries.

 

Al.

[96RAF]

Does it not have to be heatproof paint for the live steamer.

[TrainDriverJ]

These people do the colour and an acrylic type as well as gloss, emulsion etc. Don’t know if it would be suitable for your application.

https://bescoldiy.co.uk/collections/the-northumbria-heritage-collection-1/products/leyland-paint-the-northumbria-heritage-collection-stephensons-rocket

[Colroy]

Hi

Thank you all for your input very helpful.

The tender does not get hot so does not require special paint

I have ordered paint from bestcoldiy ( will see how it is when it arrives)

I have tried halfords and other car shops but nothing comes close

I am going to jawel paints tomorrow to see if they can mix the colour for me as spray can.

I will let you all know how it goes.

Thank you all for your comments, much appreciate.

ps

@atom3624 what code yellow?

[atom3624]

Tamiya XF-3.

 

Looks about right - I'm at work now, but the photo looks like mine - from ages ago for something completely different, but like home decorating, paint just seems to accumulate!

 

Al.

[Colroy]

Thank you atom3624

To give you an idea of the colour it's almost identical to the orange on a bag of Jacobs mini cheddars lol. Thank you

[atom3624]

That yellow might be too bright then.

 

Just confirmed - home now - it is XF-3 as indicated - link didn't work for known reasons!

I'd try Halfords - take a pack of mini-cheddars there!

 

Al.

[TrainDriverJ]

Before anyone produced any paint with reference to the colour of Stephenson's Rocket I found Yellow Ochre the closest match. This is quite common and can be picked up anywhere cheaply. I thought it was perfect when I made a plastic kit model a while ago. Just be aware there may be slight variants. The model paint producers "Vallejo" make this, although this was not the make I used then, so cannot guarantee results or a perfect match. Paint matching is one of those black arts!

[VESPA]

Not exactly the answer but others and yourself may find these useful.... 

Any roof grey Halford's plastic bumperMR/LMS/BR red Rover damask redGWR/BR loco green Rover Brooklands greenGWR/BR loco green Ford laurel greenBR diesel light green band Ford highland greenBR coach carmine Ford rosso redBR coach cream Vauxhall gazelle beigeBR coach cream (well worn) Peugeot antelope beigeBR diesel blue VW Pargas blueBR steam loco blue Peugeot royal blueBR loco yellow warning panel Vauxhall mustard yellowLNER garter blue/BR diesel blue, but slightly more blue Ford fjord blue, less greenLNER garter blue VW Pargas blueLMS Coronation Blue Rover Pageant mid-blueStanier Coronation blue Peugeot royal blueGWR or Pullman coach brown Rover russet brownGWR coach cream Rover Primula yellowSR dark olive green Land Rover Coniston greenLNWR/LYR coach plum lower panels Daewoo dark redLNWR coach bluey-white upper panels Daewoo Casablanca whiteCR steam loco Peugeot royal blueSDJR blue Rover midnight blueCR dark blue Rover midnight blueStroudley LBSCR ochre BMC tanLBSCR umber Vauxhall Brazil brownN.Staffs maroon Vauxhall Gambia redNER coach red Vauxhall Gambia redLYR coach upper panels Plastikote nut brown

All old colours but car makers re use colours under different names and many makes actually have the same colour. I know Vauxhall, Ford, Land Rover and Jaguar recently used Tahiti Blue from MG Rover and called it all sorts of new names. Try Daytona Yellow

[Chrissaf]

1. MR/LMS/BR red Rover damask red
2. GWR/BR loco green Rover Brooklands green
3. GWR/BR loco green Ford laurel green
4. BR diesel light green band Ford highland green
5. BR coach carmine Ford rosso red
6. BR coach cream Vauxhall gazelle beige
7. BR coach cream (well worn) Peugeot antelope beige
8. BR diesel blue VW Pargas blue
9. BR steam loco blue Peugeot royal blue
10. BR loco yellow warning panel Vauxhall mustard yellow
11. LNER garter blue/BR diesel blue, but slightly more blue Ford fjord blue, less green
12. LNER garter blue VW Pargas blue
13. LMS Coronation Blue Rover Pageant mid-blue
14. Stanier Coronation blue Peugeot royal blue
15. GWR or Pullman coach brown Rover russet brown
16. GWR coach cream Rover Primula yellow
17. SR dark olive green Land Rover Coniston green
18. LNWR/LYR coach plum lower panels Daewoo dark red
19. LNWR coach bluey-white upper panels Daewoo Casablanca white
20. CR steam loco Peugeot royal blue
21. SDJR blue Rover midnight blue
22. CR dark blue Rover midnight blue
23. Stroudley LBSCR ochre BMC tan
24. LBSCR umber Vauxhall Brazil brown
25. N.Staffs maroon Vauxhall Gambia red
26. NER coach red Vauxhall Gambia red
27. LYR coach upper panels Plastikote nut brown

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Above is an attempt to put Vespa's list into some form of readable presentation.

[VESPA]

Chrissaf, it was in a list like that, which you have redone, when I copied and pasted from my files. So yet another anomoly of this very tired and badly put together website. By the way I now start reading from the top posts, rather than the bottom posts, without logging in.

[TrainDriverJ]

Vespa, personally I would be cautious using Daytona Yellow as this is a vibrant, bright yellow. I think a dull, earthy yellow would possibly be more appropriate taken from common knowledge. I think some people do see it as being bright and if this is your taste then of course this would be fine.

Since the colour is only based on a replica and not the real thing, and as there were no colour photographs at the time, then the whole subject is a matter for debate and conjecture.

Colroy if you simply want to make sure the tender is the same as the locomotive then you could take a colour match. Homebase and B&Q do it from a sample, and can supply paint, I think they even supply a tester to take away!

[VESPA]

Chrissaf, I re read my post and it seems a bit curt, so apologies and thanks to you for taking the time to relist. I was in a bit of a hurry and saw it listed as I hadn't expected. It really is time Hornby packed in with this website format and used a ready made one that still has moderators. Most car websites use the same format which works far better than this website.

[Chrissaf]

Yes it did seem a tad curt, but I put that down to general frustration with the website.

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Yes ... I too wish the Hornby forum software was a little less custom and a little more commercial in features and functionality. Behind the scenes the ComMods are trying our very best to get this current forum link / image BUG fixed. But 'brick wall' and 'head' or 'blood' and 'stone' come to mind.

[TrainDriverJ]

Here is a picture of the plastic kit I made up a while ago. This was done with Yellow Ochre from a child’s painting kit. All done by brush. The model looks great with the naked eye but the camera lens makes me look like a true amateur. 

Unfortunately you’ll just have to wait to see my handy work due to “ bugs in the system”.

 

 

[96RAF]

@vespa

... to get the ordered list you typed in and see in draft to become the ordered list Chris put up what you have to do is double click carriage return between lines. This looks like its putting a huge gap in but the forum software strips one of them out again so it all gets bundled up.

 

Crazy that WYSI... not ...WYG

[Colroy]

Hi All

Thank you all for your replies.

update on paint: I went to Jawel paints in Tamworth and left the tender with them, they managed to mix me the paint (in an aerosol) and it's an exact match (very pleased). It cost £10 (bargain). I've respirated the tender and it looks brand new. All I need to do now is find a way of painting the fine black lines that are on the tender (proving to be a bit of a problem).

if anyone is interested I will give you the code for the paint or let me know and I will get some mixed up and post it to you.

[Chrissaf]

....or let me know and I will get some mixed up and post it to you.

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That option won't be valid on this forum as there is no 'Private Messaging' function on this forum and there is a specific 'No transaction' forum rule.

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[96RAF]

I tried using gel acrylic pens for lining but getting a clean start and stop was next to impossible. My preferred method now is to buy stick on strips which you can get in various widths and colours at most art and craft shops. I found mine in The Range. What I wanted was the old rub down transfer sheets but Letraset seems to have disappeared.

[TrainDriverJ]

Maybe it would be possible to mask off a straight edge using a piece of plastic and something like Humbrol Maskol. Painting the Maskol up to it each side. Then when dry just brush paint in between. Or perhaps use modellers precision masking tape. Just make sure your original paint is completelay dry and hard first If you try this solution.

[VESPA]

Have a look at HMRS for lining    https://hmrs.org.uk/transfers/lining-150613.html   and https://modelmaster.uk/15-general-purpose-decals-waterslide-transfers  Speak to Jim, at Modelmaster to get the line thicness you want.

[Colroy]

@TrainDriverJohn, Thank you but looks far to complicated for me to attempt (I'm not that good)

@Vespa, looks just what I'm looking for. I have emailed Jim and wait his reply.

Thank you Guys

[TrainDriverJ]

Great stuff. Looks like you got there with a little help from the forum.

 

And yes you are that good. You never know you can do anything until you give it a try.

[VESPA]

@TrainDriverJohn, Thank you but looks far to complicated for me to attempt (I'm not that good)

@Vespa, looks just what I'm looking for. I have emailed Jim and wait his reply.

Thank you Guys

I think ringing Jim at Modelmaster will be quicker as it is only himself and wife Elspeth that do all the packing and picking and emails take up a lot of time and sometimes he can take a while to reply. That can make people think he doesn't care or can't be bothered when he actually does try his best to help. There are literally thousands of items in his stock so even a small order can take quite some time to pick and pack, making emails second place.