Replacement wheels for Triang Blue Pullman

[81F]

I have just purchased a fairly nice Triang blue Pullman but need to change the driving wheels. Instead o9f them jumping a bit as they passed through my pecp points I have found that they wedge themselves in my single slip frog!

 

Can someone recommend a suitable (more modern) replacement motor bogie with a central pivot screw on top or would it be possible to pull the wheels off their axels and fit more modern hornby diesel loco wheels. If yet which ones.

 

Alternatively any other suggestions?

 

[Stubaggieboy]

There is a guy on EBay that sells replacement wheels for the BP and most of the Triang range of locos.  Not sure but I think it's champs trains! Just google replacement BP wheels. I have four eight car sets of the BP and I would advise that you add extra pick ups to the power car and replace the plastic wheels with metal rims I used tge Hornby three hole coach wheels either 8096 or R8097 can't remember which is the correct R number. This will make a massive difference to the running performance of these locos! Hope that helps.

Regards Stu 

[Rana Temporia]

The final version of the original Met Cammell DMU (Tri-ang origins rather than Lima) had fairly finescale wheels which would be a straight drop-in if you can find some on line. To make it easier to identify them they usually have plastic cogs on the axle rather than the   Original brass ones. I would change the wheels to the old axles as the plastic cogs are a bit rubbish. 

[81F]

 Many thanks for the replies. I found the chap on ebay that reprofiles wheels but he is an exchange service. As a result I bought a spare set ready to send off. However, I decided to swap them for those on my blue pullman and they go through the points OK (slight clunk but no derailments)

 

The whole unit is a bit slow so I suspect the magnet. Would a neo-magnet work or would any magnet from a Dock shunter/transcontinental loco fit

[Rana Temporia]

Any appropriate magnet would do but make sure you keep it the same way round and on an iron or steel keeper as you transfer it over. It may not be the magnet. Add a bit of appropriate lubricant to the two felt pads at either end of the armature and give it a good run on full power for 10 minutes. Also check the wheels on the trailing bogie are rotating freely. 

Don't dismantle the armature unless you really have to. there are two ball bearings at the ends of the shaft that are very easy to lose. 

[Wighty]

'Scalespeed' who advertise in various magazines can alter all the old wheels tio tun on modern track. Good service when I have used it.

[Alan-360469]

The guy who sells replacement wheels on eBay is Johns amazing trains. Sadly he has finished doing this presently, according to the eBay page.

[Kim-344602]

You can replace the driving wheels with turned down ones from Scalespeed or similar but it is not cheap. By the time you have paid postage both ways.around £30. There are other alternatives, Markits do special axles which will take the Triang cog and you can fit any of their bogie/stock wheels. However that doesn't overcome the most glaring problem. As was usual then, Triang used a stock bogie both for the motor bogie and used standard coach bogies for the rest.

I am in the process of doing one. Silver Fox models can do a complete replacement chassis for the motor one. All you need off the old one is the seating unit. It is fully DCC ready and has accurate bogie sideframes. They also do replacement bogies in both powered and unpowered for the rest.

[Bob_F]

Can you expand a bit on the offering from Silver Fox models please? I'd be interested in doing similar but can't find anything relevant on their website.

Any help appreciated.

[Kim-344602]

Hi Bob,

Will try to take a photo and upload it. No there isn't much on their website. You need to phone them. They are about the most helpful company I have come across and full of useful advice.