Robsad68 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Hi guys I'm pretty new to model railways so am learning everyday. Like you will all agree it is totally addictive. Anyway I'm at the point of adding point motors and have bought Hornby as they seem simple to wire. everything just plugs in. However the connection from the passing switch to the guagemaster control is loop connection and the guagemaster connection of by screw and insert the wire. So what do I do in this case do I strip the loop off and insert the wire. please answer this as if you are explaining to a 4 year old please as it's all new and learning. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Can you describe what you mean by the term "loop". EDIT: It's just clicked, a 'light bulb' above my head moment ... you mean a 'Ring Terminal' connector, something like the image below: /media/tinymce_upload/5c439e33fd6152757d79cc42dc29d07d.jpg Yes, just modify it by what ever method is appropriate for it to terminate on the Gaugemaster. I assume as you haven't said, that you are trying to connect to a 16 volt AC [AUX] accessory output on the Gaugemaster. One thing you haven't asked about, maybe you haven't considered it yet. You used the term 'point motors' as in plural ... i.e more than one. Now the 'Black Wire' on the Hornby point wiring system is a 'common connection'. This means that all the black wires on the Hornby point motors have to go back to one 'common' terminal on the Gaugemaster. Not so much of an issue if you only have a couple of points, but as the number of points increase then the number of wires that need to be 'commoned' together increases also. A situation could arise where the number of wires bundled together ends up too thick to terminate on the Gaugemaster screw terminal connection. Below are some drawings I produced to answer a previous question. Where I have shown the R7229 controller, this would be your Gaugemaster. Where I have shown the R8243 surface mounted point motors these could just as easily be R8014 point motors. The key thing to emphasis on the drawing is the nylon strip terminal used to 'common' all the black wires together. Just use the drawing below, if you need to, for overview guidance. /media/tinymce_upload/f6706cea063985d2076191f1ce577796.jpg /media/tinymce_upload/aa2670d034c95ea693eb9328c66ed4cc.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/7f5e53e38d55613e45b63841c68ad05a.jpgNote this however. You have gone for the Hornby wiring system because it plugs together. These R044 switch products and their asscociated wiring looms are really old designs and have not been updated in decades. The plug in terminal pins on the end of the wires can, overtime, become loose and create intermittent electrical connections. So if a point operation becomes unreliable, these plug in terminal pins should be what you check first for tightness in their socket holes. TIP: As a newbie poster on the forum, just be aware that the 'Blue Button with the White Arrow' is not a 'Reply to this post' button. If you want to reply to any of the posts, scroll down and write your reply in the reply text box at the bottom of the page and click the Green 'Reply' button..Particularly as my reply includes an image, using the 'Blue Button' may result in your reply being held back for image approval, even though it is an existing image..See also – further TIPs on how to get the best user experience from this forum.https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/tips-on-using-the-forum/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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