Gordon-1278237 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Thanks a lot Ray. That sounds very sensible, and maybe I'll follow you and those others and go that way, but I have nostalgic feelings for the old style, hence my preference for H&M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagaguy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I have to admit that i used H&M powermasters for years having had my original since about 1959-60 but a few years ago,it finally gave up the ghost,the cutout wouldn`t stay in and it eventually blew the rectifier and possibly,the transformer.I still use an H&M 2 1/2 A scalextric power supply forthe odd circuit around the layout but we chose Trax controllers over Gaugemaster as Trax supply 1 1/2 amp against Gaugemasters 1 amp and you need a bit of amperage for one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen -366958 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I absolutely agree. I've had my Duette for over 40 years and it's bullet proof.I love the hum from the transformer and the reassurance of the robust, solid quality of the unit which you don't get with the modern cheap, nasty plastic controllers.These modern controllers feel like they're designed to be disposable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 The manufacturers that use coreless motors, advise against feedback controllers as they are known to damage these motors.Similarly manufacturers that include sensitive electronic circuits in their models, advise against Duette/Clipper (and other similar age/design controllers) because they don’t include voltage smoothing, and the spikes they can produce are known to be over 3x the maximum voltage these circuit components can tolerate.There is nothing wrong with using these controllers appropriately - to control trains that have similarly basic motors/components!However anyone who disregards manufacturer advice, or who mixes sensitive technology with inappropriate power sources, at best risks damage to their models, and at worst risks causing fire/injury/death. How foolish to suggest that incompatibility warnings & advice are ‘bad-mouthing’! 🙄🤦♂️Edit: caught out by first post repetition on an old thread - however rebuttal is still potentially useful, for those unwilling to wade back through several pages!p.s. I do realise that this thread was not actually started by the person it is attributed to - caused by a bug in the forum’s latest iteration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Sagaguy, interesting Hornby box, under Bayer Garrett. How did you come by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 @Yelrow (in case sagaguy doesn’t see your question) - I believe model & box are likely to have come from this guy:https://jodelmodels.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 LT&SR, hi, yup, I thought that at first, but their box is Red. I have the loco, but in a Heljan box. Thanks for your info. Will look at model again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Ok, understand now, 3 rail loco. Thanks. Do we know what they were charging for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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