ReturnoftheTrains Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Hi,I am just trying to restore an old Hornby R.033 Morning Star. It was part of the family trains I found in the loft recently.The bearings in the loco appear to be worn causing a lot of vertical movement.I have checked the service sheet 130 and it says the sets of wheels and axles X1465/1466 are the replacements.Is there anywhere you can get these, or is there another locomotive of that period that could be used to get them from as spares?I did check the ones on Peters Spares but they are the later larger size.ThanksRichard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I bought my last lot off EBay, as for the bearings I imagine there is someone on this site that will probably advise you. Are you sure there is something wrong with it? I haven't really checked mine but they were not the most precise of mechanisms. Remember it has to be pushed by the tender because it is tender driven so you don't want it too tight. Have you tried it with the loco to see if it actually works, usually the big concern is the loco sliding on the wheels rather than them turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Peters Spares are offering a X1465/X1466 wheelsets set (and also the S2382 bearing by itself) but check with them the suitability for Morning Star because they state "flush crank" whereas your loco has extended cranks. Exchanging cranks would not be difficult as they are only a push fit. Are you sure the excessive movement is caused by wear on the bearings rather than to the chassis block axle journals and that the chassis bottom moulding is holding the axles in place correctly?Moderator Edit : you can use the strike through font formattercas formatter as shown here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Apologies: the last sentence of your post has just registered, meaning part of the above post is inappropriate but the edit & delete functions are not working.Moderator edit: use the three vertical dots right top corner of each post to show which options are available to you depending upon if you started a post, own it or have simply replied to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 The same wheels were used on the last version of the Hall (service sheet 86B) and possibly the B12 but on those locos the axles passed through the chassis block so assembled wheelsets were not offered (and axle bearings were not used). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnoftheTrains Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 Thanks for the replies. The problem is I am comparing the train against the Triang ones and the difference is vast. They are obviously loco driven, so I will clean it all up and see how it goes.I did hold the bearings down with the weight of the pliers and the axle does move a bit, but maybe there is no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I still have box labels for Morning Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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