TVR1707822112 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Hi all, just recieved this email from my local model shop. States new tooled Hornby 9Fs are in stock - however I haven't seen this anywhere else. Are they in stock everywhere now? If they are, does anyone have one? Would you recommend it? And, are they worth the ridiculous RRP?Best wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 According to posts on RMweb, these loco's have been shipped to retailers and direct to Hornby's own customers - the reviews seem to be as mixed as ever on that forum, depending on how ultra fussy you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Mine is in the post. Yes, I was horrified at the price, I preordered it from a retailer not Hornby. I am sure it was much less when I ordered it. I was quite surprised to get the Email to say it had been Shipped. Let's hope it is worth all that money. I must admit the only locos I now preorder are the ones from Rails. Generally they are specials and sell out quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I pre-ordered it from Hornby on announcement, and also being a Collector Club member I received the Club discount. So I saved over forty pounds on the current RRP. The Evening Star is a superb model and the packaging was second to none. So no complaints from me whatsoever.People, even on this forum, complain about the cost of the Club membership, but there are serious savings to be made. I recently bought the air-brush compressor, exactly the same model elsewhere was £230 - through the Club I paid £98 - with free postage - so that's my Club membership fee saved - for several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 The new models have a few defects. Moulding lines and rings are visible inside the smoke deflectors for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I don't have one of the new 9Fs nor have one on order but looking at most of the feedback I have seen online, it is a fantastic model. A few always complain about one thing or the other, and they'll always find something to moan about but they appear in be in the minority.I believe my 9F got great reviews when it was released but I'd bet there were plenty of moaners than also. Its pretty unrealistic, has a copied Fleischmann motor, no separate handrails and paper nameplates but plenty seem to love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I received mine this morning. I have to admit Hornby have done a really good job. My only complaint is the DCC fitting. I assume the box at the back is a sound box, to which you add a sugar cube speaker. I spent ages trying to work out if I could remove it to make room to fit a thin bass enhanced one, only to find out it is fixed on with double sided tape. I am still trying to figure out whether that enclosure will give better sound that a thin Bass Enhanced one from Road and Rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 It looks to be a great model but at £200+ my wallet stays shut, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkRedCape Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Got mine a week or so ago, it’s absolutely stunning and I’m very impressed. I think these are one of the best looking British steam trains of all time.Is it worth nearly £250 direct from Hornby? Probably not, but the discussion about price on Hornby products is one I’ve seen get heated from both sides. When it comes to peoples money, I’m always on the side of, they earned it, they can spend it on whatever they like.I’m just trying very hard not to buy the other two new 9Fs so I can have all three of the new ones. sweat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 When I pre ordered it, it was £184. Unfortunately, it took so long to come it has been through two price rises. It is probably one of the last I buy off Hornby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkRedCape Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Even with my collectors club discount, it was still £242 when I pre-ordered mine. Think they are close to £300 direct from Hornby now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 That's the advantage of pre-ordering from Hornby as soon as its announced - you can always cancel later, and you know you will get it. I'm all for supporting your local model shop, but few will honour the original price, and as you said Colin, there have been two price increases and along with a long delay in delivery, the overall increase can be substantial, which makes the original pre-order price even more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 That is where Hornby score over retailers because the latter have to pay the price ruling at the time of delivery, not the time their order was placed with Hornby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Yes, I learnt the hard way although most of my other orders were with Hornby, so I got my Hush Hush at the original advertised price. I did like to spread the pre orders around to keep retailers in business. I still have orders with Hornby for the P2 and the Flying Scotsman with steam generator, so hopefully I will get those at the original price. I must admit £200 is normally my limit for a loco, it was only that I had pre ordered it that I paid the £224. I am not sure whether these will sell out, they are nice locos, vast improvement on the old Railroad version (which you would expect). Mind you, a friend of mine's daughter paid £600 for a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes (a very special purchase for her 40th), so my loco looks really cheap compared to those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkRedCape Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 The reason I ordered my most recent locos on pre-order direct from Hornby was because of their supply issues of late. Plus there is that business of Hornby not treating some of their long time retailers very well and at least one shop (I forget the name) said they won’t be stocking Hornby pre-orders. I really wanted these locos, so I went where I knew I’d almost definitely get one. Just how it is sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 @ColinBYou wouldn't want to walk on a 9F though joyBut on the subject of honouring pre-order prices, I have a set of Genesis coaches on order from Hatton's which I placed about a year ago any they are honouring the price that it was when I placed the order, although they have just raised the price for new orders by £10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Generally most business do honor the pre order price. Hornby seem to have a very weird relationship with their Retailers, that is how the motor industry worked in the 70's. It will be interesting to see if there are anymore price rises this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkRedCape Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I’d say about 95% of what I’ve bought so far has come from Hattons, and they’ve honoured every pre-order price I’ve had with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 And according to Roads and Rails fitting sound with a 15x11mm speaker is a doddle - their image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 If you want to do it properly there are two pads on the DCC socket board marked S1 and S2. This way the speaker is independent of the decoder board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornbyinNC Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Absolutely best 9F, yet. I have many 9F's, going back to Tri-ang / Hornby vintage "Evening Star" and including modern Hornby as well as Bachmann, variants.The two latest variants received are by far the best to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 One known issue with the new 9F is the piston rods tend to come out during running, it's been on a lot of the Facebook forums lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVR1707822112 Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 I've seen Sam'sTrains review of it, but are the torque issues he had widespread?Best wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I ran mine for the statuary 30 minutes for running in, no issues. I only run 4 carriages with long sweeping bends so I wouldn't notice any real torque issues. Mind you he highlighted the Bachmann 9F for the same fault and I never noticed any real issues. I like Sam's reviews but sometimes you have to look at your own use and see if it is an issue. I am surprised Hornby used that motor rather than their normal one, but they obviously have their reasons, perhaps the low speed running is better. The front bogie derails if I go at maximum speed over my double slip, but I think that is more to do with my track. When I was fitting DCC one of the connectors on the 4 pin plug was on its way out, so I had to push it back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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