Rallymatt Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Just tracking down a 6pin decoder for a quick delivery and looked on Amazon…. It’s full of HM7000 kit so promising delivery so, by that measure it must have been released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Can’t see that myself, are you able to post a link? R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveM6 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Found a few advertised, all from the same supplier. Given that Hornby said release of the decoders would be held up until the app was launched to avoid confusion, this seems a little suspicious.I wonder if the Hornby stock room has a leak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rallymatt Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 Pic sent for approval, I found it while looking for a 6pin regular decoder…. But Amazon search didn’t find it under HM7000. I have cancelled my Hornby order and ordered here, it’s £10 less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Does seem odd. Flagged to Hornby. R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Are they actually in stock with these guys or simply pre-order as the advert I saw said ‘usually despatched within 5-7 days’. In my experience these promises can be ‘flexible’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Certainly my pre-orders are still showing Pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_watts1 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 If that next 18 decoder is the one I was just looking at, the guy only has 92% positive feedback so buyer beware!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 There have been many reports on local marketplace sites of scammers who offer up such ‘unavailable’ goods, they take payment but never send out the goods as they never actually had any.A case was recently reported on one of the FB sites I frequent about new Hornby train sets at bargain prices never turning up.Very much a case of buyer beware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 Amazon is a very safe marketplace, if it’s not right the refund process is very easy.It’s possible that Hornby have confirmed shipments out to dealers and this one is on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 The Amazon seller is Rarewaves.com is an award winning retailer and one of the largest online retailers of entertainment products in the world, operating from London and Rushden in the UK.Plus what RM says, i've never had an issue with Amazon and refunds.. Ordered a few... Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Well if Hornby are saying they are due in the spring, that to me means they haven't been released yet, so the Amazon seller can't have any in stock, can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 A closer look at the advert says delivery in 2-3 months. The ‘usually despatched in 2-5 days’ bit is standard Amazon waffle as is the 18th Feb bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1965 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 8 pin with sound is unavailable now on hornby shop..Sold out joysunglasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 So much speculation, so few facts, sorry. I think I’ll leave further reading of this thread as pending until Hornby stop saying pending on my pre-orders and take my money on at least the first of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ighten 1707822464 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 If the 8pin sound is sold out already I'm concerned this is going to hint at continued issues with a system thats so "in house" .Whilst we had the same issues with TTS it didn't really matter; you could take another route for chip and sound.. But if Hornby can't even keep up supply for there own unique BT chips then I'm starting to have second thoughts. You have no alternative and effectively hit a brick wall. I'm sure we will get the answer more will be coming but we had that for TTS and it never materialised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Given that the decoders haven’t been released for general sale yet despite what Amazon and others are promising, there could be thousands in the next shipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ighten 1707822464 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 But we only have what Hornbys official site has to go on.. i.e. "sold out."I'm semi confident they will keep production fluid.. what's baffling is why it's not already totally fluid to have capacity to match the number of models it fits because in this case you are locked into a system if you take this route as a newb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 At the moment there is a world wide shortage of microprocessors which is why it is so difficult to obtain many of the more popular DCC decoders. So unless Hornby are making their own microprocessors, I imagine the release data is heavily dependent on obtaining suitable electronic parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Despite this, release may be more dependent on reliable operation of the App rather than hardware completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 @Ighten - Hornby have not stated anywhere that there are any restrictions on distribution of HM7000 decoders.Just because their own website has currently met its allocation of pre-orders from the first batch (an equally possible speculation) - doesn’t offer any indications regarding other retailers’ allocations, or further batch production status.It therefore seems a little bold to suggest that they will be incapable of satisfying demand - however it may take some time/patience to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 SK did hint in a recent interview that global shortage of micro-processors is impacting on some of Hornby’s products. When you hear of very cost conscious car giants bidding 1000% more to obtain electrical hardware you know it’s serious!When ever my sound decoder arrives and I’m confident but will it is priced lower than direct so that’s fine by me. It’s pretty normal when there are both direct and dealer sales channels for the direct sales to be made at RRP so as not to hobble dealer network and stock is allocated between both channels. Highly likely Hornby have sold out on their initial direct sales allocation but the stock allocated to dealers/retailers is ring fenced so you will still be able to pick up decoders in the network and maybe bag a bargain. This is a truly game changing development in DCC and I would be surprised if any DCC operator hasn’t ordered at least 1 if only to see how it goes, especially as the controller app is FREE 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I didn't think they were ready for release yet. Those shown on Amazon for delivery in a few days are now showing out of stock. There was also a rumour of "stuff" being stolen from Hornby.I think, as has been said, it could be a game changer. The sound decoders come with a speaker, and as you will be able to download the sound you require - for free - it looks a very good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkRedCape Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I just got an email from Hornby saying the 15v power supply adapter has arrived and will be shipped to me.On Sunday the 19th, the whole range had a winter 2022/2023 release date on it, by Monday the 20th it had all moved to a spring 2023 release date. So I think the initial batch has come in, and the next batch will come in spring time.I had a bunch of other HM7000 stuff on pre-order, so it’ll be interesting to see what else ships in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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