JJ73 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 HiyaI was making a video the other day & I like to name my Locos & Rolling Stock what feature in my Vids & I came across this Carriage / Guards Van type Vehicle & wasn't too sure what to call it...As you can see in the above Photo Half of it is a Carriage & the other half is a Guards Van thingy - The Number on the side is M 26133 & it is from the Hornby Dublo 'The Royal Scot' Electric Train Set R1283M if that is any help - Thank you in advance!!! 🤔🚂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What About The Bee Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Hi JJI took your Hornby number R1283M and searched for what it contained. It said the rolling stock it contained is:BR (exLMS) Composite CoachBR (exLMS) Brake 3rd CoachI then looked up images of these two types of carriages. The image you show is an excellent match for Brake 3rd Coach.Check Hornby R4801 to see if you agree!Bee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 Thank you Bee 🙂 Guess what - I couldn't find 'R4801' on the Hornby Web Site - but I did find this :- R40022 BR, Mk1 Brake Composite Corridor, E 21106 - Era 4 (hornby.com)Which is nearly the same - slightly different thou...May be I'll just call it a BR (exLMS) Composite Brake 3rd Carriage!!! - But what does 'Composite' mean thou??? 🤔🚂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What About The Bee Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Hi JJHere R4801 is on Hattonshttps://www.hattons.co.uk/250893/hornby_r4801_ex_lms_57_suburban_non_corridor_brake_third_m20736m_in_br_crimson/stockdetailIf not mistaken "composite" means two different classes of service in one rail car.Bee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 Yep I did see that Hattons 1 but it was a different colour & the windows were thinner!!! 🚂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Search for R4232 - that will show you the Stanier mainline corridor brake 3rd coach in LMS crimson lake livery (without the Royal Scot roofboard). R4801 is the ex-LMS suburban non-corridor equivalent in BR crimson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 That is the Hornby standard 57’ BTK (break 3rd Corridor) it is a Stanier diagram 1905. Built in the 1930’s. The same diagram is also used in the Coronation. if you are correct about the windows being different on the model you looked at it might be a different diagram someone has made using a Hornby model as a starting point. But Hornby as only made the 1905 in the higher detail range. the gray bits on the Guard end are chalk boards. For distension to be written on of certain goods being carried inside the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazy Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Other BTK and BCK are available in kit form, and I think the old Airfix/Mainline did a different diagram but it’s been a long time since I’ve seen one in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ73 Posted June 25, 2023 Author Share Posted June 25, 2023 Thank you G.S & Fazy 🙂🚂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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