DJN Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I am looking for an 0-6-0 "Jinty" tank engine with a view to DCC conversion.I note there are several variants in LMS maroon livery that are DCC compatible.The older one has a Ringfield motor and the 2009 version is, I presume, made inChina with a sealed motor. Would there be any difference from the point of view of the ease of conversion? Also which motor would be best, in DCC form ,for shunting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 New modellers shop have the 0-6-0 motor as a spare both as DC and DCC ready which would likely drop into a Jinty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Are you referring to Hornby Jinty models? None have been fitted with either a Ringfield or a sealed motor. The earliest used a X04/X03 long open-frame motor before adopting the still current square open-frame motor as suggested by 96RAF. Bachmann have also made the Jinty and this uses a can (sealed) motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJN Posted October 30, 2023 Author Share Posted October 30, 2023 I read about a Hornby version (no. 16440) on the Hattons web-site,that was described as having a Ringfield motor. - they have sold out.I also came across the term "slot-car" motor which I guess means open-frame. The reference from 96RAF looks like what I need to emulate for DCC wiring . Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Hatton's describe a lot of locos as having Ringfield motors that almost certainly do not. Slot Car motors are CAN types, the ones that are used in Scalextric cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 The only steam tank locos I've encountered with a ringfield type motor (vertically mounted large flat armature surrounded by a circular magnet) are some very cheap old Lima models and the early Mainline / Bachmann J72. There may be some others with ringfields but they are far more common in tender drive locos and bogie diesels/electrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSR_NSE Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Not relevant to the original question, but in addition to ntp’s recollections:The Castle tooling that Hornby bought from Dapol (in late 90s/early 00s) had a ringfield motor. Unusually despite being a tender loco - it was loco drive, the ringfield motor was within the firebox/boiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 The earliest ringfield motor I can recall was in a Hornby Dublo 8F I had as a child. It looked much like a conventional long open frame motor except the the magnet was hollow and encased the armature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJN Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Well I've ordered a second hand LMS maroon Jinty from Hattons . It looks identical to a more expensive "mint" offering on eBay (without a box). If so it will have a type 'M' motor. Perhaps even a DCC socket, but I ain't counting on that. The slot car fraternity use the term "strap motor" for the motors in some vintageF1 slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Hornby jinties don't have ringfield motors. The former Tri-ang model had the X.04 motor in. In 1978 a new mould was made which is still in use today. Early 1978 first issue ones had the famous X.03 motor, later ones the type 7 M series motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Here are the motors fitted to Hornby Jinties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brew Man Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 How many would you like? joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJN Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 Think I might need a spare motor of the type as I now have three 0-6-0s .Will follow Hornby guidance for Thomas doing the conversion.Though I seem to have a surfeit of capacitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 If you look on the New Modellers Shop product page there is a link to the chassis mods necessary when installing the DCC ready motor to an earlier chassis.BTW you can bin the capacitor and ferrite man if going DCC as the decoder sorts out RF interefence . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJN Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 Thanks for those tips and the info re motors. The most difficult part of this exercise was re-fitting the body shell _ I made a loose sleeve from insulation tape to hold the decoder in the smoke box with the plug alongside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 I did the conversion using the PCB from a 0-6-0 Peckett loco, using a 6 pin Train O Matic decoder. It also gives room underneath the decoder for the LaisDCC Stay Alive (not fitted yet). I removed the two dropper resistors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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