PeterMcGowan Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Hi Was wondering if the Loco you get for joining the Hornby Club is DCC Chipped or DCC Ready. (or neither) Please could somebody advise Thanks Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 As far as I know the answer is neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieJ Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Its neither but can easily be chipped as it comes with instructions on how to do this..hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Dead easy to chip. There are instructions for 0-4-0 on this site but they say the motor has to be removed and turned over and that is not the case as the motor connectors are up where you can get at them, not down. Just unsolder red and black wires from motor connectors and replace with decoder orange and grey. Now connect red and black pickup wires to decoder red and black. QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Not chipped or DCC Ready but as has been said very easy to chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMU mad Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I can confirm that there is no socket for a DCC chip, however I have hardwired a decoder to the motor of my 2012 club model and it works a treat. I just followed the instructions on the hornby website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Here are my detailed fitting instructions on this forum 8 months ago, step by step as I did it: In fact, the instructions on fitting the chip itself don't match the 2011 and 2012 locos in detail, even if they are right in the end. The instructions suggest that the motor is mounted connector side down and there is a connection to only one side pickup. In fact, there is a connection to each pickup - the red capacitor (actually a black inductor) to one as per the instructions, and a black wire to the other - and the motor is mounted connector side up. Consequently, you don't have to remove the motor, the assembly can be done with it in place. All that is neceesary to fit the chip is: - prepare the chip as per the instructions - unsolder the black inductor from the motor connection only, leaving the other end connected to the pickup - unsolder both legs of the yellow capacitor which has one leg soldered to the motor body and discard, leaving the 2nd yellow capacitor in place across the connections to the motor - solder the orange chip wire to the left connector and the grey to the right as per the instructions (note - if you solder the orange to the right and the grey to the left, the loco will run backwards on the forward control and forwards on the backward and you'll have to re-program direction) - solder the red chip wire to the free end of the black inductor connected to one pickup - solder the black chip wire to the black wire connected to the other pickup - now insulate connections, test run and re-assemble as per instructions As Dylan's Grandad says, this is a simple installation, not the complicated one described over 25 steps in the 0-4-0 decoder fitting instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Happy I left the capacitor across the motor poliss? But you don't actually need to, you can remove it. The logic here is simple. A capacitor has high resistance at low frequency and low resistance at high frequency. It is put across the motor to effectively short out the high frequency hash generated as the brushes make and break contact with the rotating commutator. This ensures no radio frequency interference is generated by the motor and explains why it is there in the first place. But DCC signals are high frequency too. So the capacitor tends to short them out and can reduce DCC performance across the entire layout. So removing the capacitor may improve DCC performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Just a reminder about which/what/format your club loco will be, when you renew your membership, you get three options - Option 1 =0-4-0 Tank Locomotive, Option 2 =£20 voucher off next purchase and Option 3 = 2012 Hornby catalogue (Note 2012 not 2013). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted_ Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Fishmanoz said: Here are my detailed fitting instructions on this forum 8 months ago, step by step as I did it: In fact, the instructions on fitting the chip itself don't match the 2011 and 2012 locos in detail, even if they are right in the end. The instructions suggest that the motor is mounted connector side down and there is a connection to only one side pickup. In fact, there is a connection to each pickup - the red capacitor (actually a black inductor) to one as per the instructions, and a black wire to the other - and the motor is mounted connector side up. Consequently, you don't have to remove the motor, the assembly can be done with it in place. All that is neceesary to fit the chip is: - prepare the chip as per the instructions - unsolder the black inductor from the motor connection only, leaving the other end connected to the pickup - unsolder both legs of the yellow capacitor which has one leg soldered to the motor body and discard, leaving the 2nd yellow capacitor in place across the connections to the motor - solder the orange chip wire to the left connector and the grey to the right as per the instructions (note - if you solder the orange to the right and the grey to the left, the loco will run backwards on the forward control and forwards on the backward and you'll have to re-program direction) - solder the red chip wire to the free end of the black inductor connected to one pickup - solder the black chip wire to the black wire connected to the other pickup - now insulate connections, test run and re-assemble as per instructions As Dylan's Grandad says, this is a simple installation, not the complicated one described over 25 steps in the 0-4-0 decoder fitting instructions. Thanks for these instructions, just done the chip fitting on my 2013 club model. It works a treat and is a right little flyer. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Also when decoder fitting, don't forget that decoders are static sensitive so you have to be very careful when handling them and use anti-static equipment if you don't want to run the risk of damaging the components on them with static electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malang66 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Ted_ said: Thanks for these instructions, just done the chip fitting on my 2013 club model. It works a treat and is a right little flyer. Thanks again. ive just read you can do away with the capacitors as they could interfer with dcc signal is this true.. as if my chips arrive tomorrow i want to fit them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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