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Hornby J50 - is fitting a decoder possible?


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I have recently acquired a J50 tank engine (R.3406) which is DCC ready (8 pin), but has precious little space inside the body cavity for a decoder (and speaker).
After examination, I have concluded that sound installation is (probably) not an option, but before I reach such a conclusion definitively, has anyone successfully installed sound into one of these (HM7000 or other make)?
I note that there are weights in the side tanks that are supposedly removable. Does removing these provide the necessary space? I imagine that removal will likely affect the performance too, given they just provide a significant percentage of the overall weight of the loco.

My current thoughts are that the only viable option will be to fit a non-sound ‘nano’ decoder that plugs directly into the socket.

Thoughts or observations welcome……

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The OO J50 was one of the first TXS conversions I did and relatively straightforward.

Remove one of the weights to give space for the decoder then fit the stayalive and speaker in the cab and disguise them with a crew.

If you want a challenge, try converting a Bachmann J72!

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Seeing as another thread talks about fitting sound to the TT:120 J50 I would think the 00 version would be a reasonably easy conversion.

I fitted TTS sound to a GWR pannier tank long ago using the big round speaker after cropping the tank weights, so anything is possible with TXS and the small speaker

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Yes it certainly does work. Fitted the decoder to the side cavity having removed the weight and a speaker fits in the main body. I haven’t fitted a stay alive yet but will do when they’re next back in stock. It will have to go in the cab. Not noticed any difference in operation. 

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On 10/05/2024 at 21:23, Loewietje said:

Let me know how it goes, I have couple of those still to do. 

I’ve now completed this project. HM7k 8 pin decoder fitted into the tank space (after removing the weight), with the smallest sugar-cube speaker led through to the cab. I have not fitted a PB. All pretty straightforward in the end.

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1 hour ago, Loewietje said:

Thanks. Stupid question, but I’ve misplaced the stay alive, don’t ask…. is the box it came in the same size as the decoders?

 

Hornby power bank comes in a plastic bag with a card closure.

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I fitted the speaker (smallest cube) on top of the 8-pin plug, no need to put it in the cab. It is running around a piper on parade (guess which sound profile I used…) and no need for the stay-alive so far. If this changes I think I might cut the other weight in half, and put the stay-alive there. 
The hardest part of all was fitting the wires inside without them interfering with reassembling the body on the chassis. 

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