Rallymatt Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 The original tanker model was ‘put out to the factory’ according to Carl from Hornby, quite what that really means I don’t know as the cad is definitely Hornby. I think they possibly mean that they sent the files over and the factory sent finished models, no specific UK evaluation. It has been a problem and judging by other comments Carl made, it was one model that would get some re-working to bring it in line with the standards of others. There have been lots of little examples of models being tweaked and improved so they are being very reactive. Making in a whole new scale, particularly a smaller one is quite a big deal although they have expertise at Arnold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratman 47 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 I like your comment about Arnold Matt. Just a thought. I wonder as they own Arnold, if there is a reason why Hornby haven't called on their experience of building in tt-120? As we all know there is a big difference in size from 00 down to tt-120 and therefore requires more finesse and care in assembly particularly as Hornby are clearly trying to incorporate as much detail into such small models. Maybe they should consider factories who build N scale as I would have thought the step up to building larger should be easier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 It would interesting to know what transfer of knowledge there is between Hornby and Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc4946 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 The BP/Shell tanks as modelled by Hornby represent them in post-1945 condition "Post-war, the livery reverted to aluminium with no stripe, but a red solebar." https://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/wagon/4497.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR248 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 20 hours ago, Rallymatt said: The original tanker model was ‘put out to the factory’ according to Carl from Hornby, quite what that really means I don’t know as the cad is definitely Hornby. I think they possibly mean that they sent the files over and the factory sent finished models, no specific UK evaluation. It has been a problem and judging by other comments Carl made, it was one model that would get some re-working to bring it in line with the standards of others. There have been lots of little examples of models being tweaked and improved so they are being very reactive. Making in a whole new scale, particularly a smaller one is quite a big deal although they have expertise at Arnold. I think that he made a similar comment about the 08. I imagine that he meant that they gave the factory too much control and the end result could have been better. That said, my very limited experience of such things suggests that, even if they're in the same building, design and production have different and often conflicting ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMR248 Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Regarding barrier wagons, some fuels are more flammable than others so that might explain the absence of these on some trains? Perhaps the giveaway might have been the steam valves on heavy oil wagons to heat the tar like contents to persuade them to flow at the point of discharge (I imagine that heavy oil is also very much a thing of the past). Might be worth mentioning that the word used in the distant past for "flammable" was "inflammable". It was changed for obvious reasons... I don't think they have them now, except on nuclear trains where they use them to protect the train crew from radiation, I believe. In this context a Clss 20 diesel can be a barrier "wagon" (sort of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Allen Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 On 27/09/2024 at 14:50, Silver Fox 17 said: Here are some barrier wagons in use. Not quite the same wagons for the barrier but I’ve done a train in honour of your pictures. 😊 IMG_3044.mov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox 17 Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 (edited) My phone won't play it, something about Codec not supported. You might have to put a still photo on. Edited September 29 by Silver Fox 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Playing it safe @Tim Allen with two vent vans 😁 no one needs fire on a layout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Allen Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 4 minutes ago, Silver Fox 17 said: My phone won't play it, something about Codec not supported. You might have to put a still photo on. try this 😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Allen Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 2 minutes ago, Rallymatt said: Playing it safe @Tim Allen with two vent vans 😁 no one needs fire on a layout Well I thought with it being near to bonfire night if I used the boxed wagons I could ship the fireworks at the same time. Who said railways can’t be efficient!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox 17 Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 8 minutes ago, Tim Allen said: try this 😁 Excellent Tim, just the job. You have a fair few tankers there, very impressive, as are all the 21T mineral wagons. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Allen Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 24 minutes ago, Silver Fox 17 said: Excellent Tim, just the job. You have a fair few tankers there, very impressive, as are all the 21T mineral wagons. That's the beauty of TT:120 for me, I can have my 6x4 layout with some impressive rakes and multiple trains. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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