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Hi All, From browsing the web site I note that Hornby have 4 electric locootives with panographs but I annot find anything on the overhead cantenary systems for them, I have look elsewhere and the seems to be a total lack of anything on the markey axcept scratch-built. Can anyone direct me to the right area for such systems. Best Rgds Dave R.
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Try Guagemaster Controls under 00 and search catenary........... I cannot link on here under Firefox browser as it seems to not work. You will see various styles. Dapol are also going to produce some or may have done !!
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Try Guagemaster Controls under 00 and search catenary........... I cannot link on here under Firefox browser as it seems to not work. You will see various styles. Dapol are also going to produce some or may have done !!
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I have heard d@pol do a good one but I'm not sure. Just to warn you if you are using DCC cantenary systems don't work too well on DCC, Hope this helps, Jacob


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The problem with DCC via an overhead line is one of poor electrical connection. Electrical pick-up via the rails can be done through all of the wheels providing between two and nine points of contact per rail. Using a pantograph you have only one point of contact. The slightest bit of dirt on the overhead line will interrupt the DCC signal and stop the train.
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Someone has explained it better than I can on the World Railfans Forum. "DCC requires a circuit, as you would expect. On 2-rail, one rail is the supply and the other is the return. With Märklin, the catenary is the supply and both rails are the return. When you try to use DCC with catenary, the catenary is the supply, but you can't use both rails for the return, because diesels and steam locos will still need the conventional 2-rail wiring. That means you have to pick one rail or the other for the return from the catenary circuit, and thus the loco can only operate when it is oriented appropriately. When you run a loco around a reversing loop, the orientation is reversed, and the return side of the loco will be on the supply side of the rails; both the pans and wheels will be connected to the supply side, so there is no circuit and it will not run. " http://www.worldrailfans.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8518&start=20">http://www.worldrailfans.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8518&start=20
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2-rail systems - dummy catenary system. I think you will find that in most 2-rail systems the cantenary pick-up are dummies and therefore the overhead catenary system is not powered. The locos get their power and return from the rails. This does not apply to the Maerklin 3-rail system as the centre rail/studs supplies the power feed and the 2 outer rails the power return. This system has a power feed available to the catenary system and locos with suitable live catenary pick-ups can use the catenary pick-up or the centre rail/studs to power the loco. The Electric locos have a switch on the loco to select the power source. I note the comment about not being able to turn the loco run on a catenary system, but this applies in real life, as trains are driven from either end, without having to move the motive unit. A bit like push/pull steam trains.
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Hi Pomdave,

I found this supplier for catenary systems for 2 rail model railways:

http://www1.conrad-uk.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/~flN0YXRlPTQwMjEyNjQ3NjI=?direkt_aufriss_area=SHOP_B2C_TAB_HOBBY&~template=PCAT_AREA_S_browse&p_page_to_display=&catalogs_sub_id=sub3&aktiv=3&navi=oben_1

It

is for HO scale systems but should look alright with the 00 scale. They have the items priced in £s.

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Hi PomDave,

I have found the following supplier of catenary systems for 2 rail model railways:

http://www1.conrad-uk.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/~flNlc3Npb249UDkwX0NPUF9VSzpDX0FHQVRFMDY6MDAwMC4wMTIwLjJjOTc0ZjcxJn5odHRwX2NvbnRlbnRfY2hhcnNldD1pc28tODg1OS0xJn5TdGF0ZT00MDIxMjY0NzYy====?direkt_aufriss_area=SHOP_B2C_TAB_HOBBY&~template=PCAT_AREA_S_browse&p_page_to_display=&catalogs_sub_id=sub3&aktiv=3&navi=oben_1

They

also have the following:

http://www1.conrad-uk.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/~flNlc3Npb249UDkwX0NPUF9VSzpDX0FHQVRFMDY6MDAwMC4wMTIwLjJjOTc0ZjcxJn5odHRwX2NvbnRlbnRfY2hhcnNldD1pc28tODg1OS0xJn5TdGF0ZT00MDIxMjY0NzYy====?direkt_aufriss_area=SHOP_B2C_TAB_HOBBY&~template=PCAT_AREA_S_browse&p_page_to_display=&catalogs_sub_id=sub3&aktiv=3&navi=oben_1.

The

prices seem reasonable and they are priced in £s.

The scale is HO but should look alright on 00.
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Hi PomDave,

I have tried to post information about two different catenary system which might suit your requirement, but the system has sent the posting off for review and it is possible that they will not be posted.

The website is http://www1.conrad-uk.com/

You

should look on this site for hobbies/model railway/gauge HO and look for HO Conact wires Som---- and HO Aerial wire Vie-------

The prices seem reasonable and are priced in £s.

The HO gauge items should not look out of place on a 00 scale railway

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I have been looking at Hornby a Hornby Locomotive Operation and Maintenance Leaflet dated 1989. In the section General Information/Pantagraphs sub-sections:

(d) If the layout is Zero 1 powered the current should be collected from the track rails

only. In this case refer to the Locomotive Module fitting leaflet. The Pantagraph can be in the up position if desired.

(b) If a layout has a non-operational catenary system run the model with the pantagraph up and slide switch move away frm pantagraph.

Zero

1 was Hornby's first attempt at digital control of a layout. I think that this is good advice and applies equally to DCC powered layouts.
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