paul_bowes Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 hi, I am planning on switching my layout from DC to DCC early next year. Most of my locos are DC so I need to solder the chip in, I have managed to work out most now but have two locos which I am unsure about, the class 59 by Hornby and the london 2012 loco from the official train set. Both seam to have mini PCB's in so am wondering how they would be chipped. Thanks, James, Bowsey456 on YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bowes Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Hi MagFan,I Have some pictures of the inside of the two locos. London 2012: /media/tinymce_upload/WP_20141201_011.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/WP_20141201_005.jpgClass 59:/media/tinymce_upload/WP_20141201_004.jpgIf you need any other info let me know...Thanks,James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The Class 59 is DCC ready, or it should be.That looks like a blanking plug in the bottom photo.Here's the Broms Mods guide. https://clarahost.clara.net/www.bromsgrovemodels.co.uk/hornbycl59dccinstr.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 As Poliss put, that's an eight-pin blanking plate on the right end of that centre plate. Just pull the blanker straight up to remove it, and put a DCC chip in it's place.Make sure you find pin 1 on the socket, and match it with pin 1 on the chip! It might have a tiny 1 printed by it, or a dot of paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bowes Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 wow, yes that's right! Cant believe it, it's quite an old loco so didn't even try to see if it was a blanking plate because presumed it was too old.Thanks For The Help, James any ideas on the london 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bowes Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 the class 59 thats the easy one sortedthe pcb i think is for the lights on dcso you will have to do away with that for now ,can you trace the two wires from the pick ups and seperate them from the two motor wires.if so red and black wires to pick upsgrey and orange wires to the motorif possible drop the motor out from the housing and photo from above and sidesYes, Class 59 sorted! :) Here are some pictures of the 2012 motor: /media/tinymce_upload/image20.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/image21.jpgThanks, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bowes Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 the class 59 thats the easy one sortedthe pcb i think is for the lights on dcso you will have to do away with that for now ,can you trace the two wires from the pick ups and seperate them from the two motor wires.if so red and black wires to pick upsgrey and orange wires to the motorif possible drop the motor out from the housing and photo from above and sideshave a look on this site the decoder installation guides a wiring diagram is ongive it a studyand if you have already done a few decoders alreadymark and snip the pcb wires and im sure you will see the similarities between what you have done and this locoOk, thanks, will take a look, I have posted some photos but they are waiting to be checked by a mod. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I don't believe you will need to do anything with the PCB for the lights. On a DCC ready loco like this, the PCB is designed to take either a DC or a DCC source to make the lights function. The only difference will be that on DCC the lights will be functional all the time and on DC only when the loco is moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bowes Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 I don't believe you will need to do anything with the PCB for the lights. On a DCC ready loco like this, the PCB is designed to take either a DC or a DCC source to make the lights function. The only difference will be that on DCC the lights will be functional all the time and on DC only when the loco is moving. Ok Great, So I just need to solder in a chip for the motor?Thanks, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 This is the only info I've found on how to fit a decoder to a non-DCC ready Javelin so far.http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/28016-fitting-a-chip-to-a-railroad-javelin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bowes Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 paul it looks to me that the two outer and lower wires are the pick ups these need connecting to the red and black decoder wiresso that leaves two motor wires cu these further back and connect to orange and blackdo check and confirm this@ fish i dont see any where for the dcc decoder to fit in so suggest this loco is not dcc ready and any lighting will be on all the time both forward and reverse,thats for you to decide paul if you want all lights on all the time I see, well i am happy with the lights to be on all the time so will just solder in a chip to the motor for that one, I agree on the wires I think they are correct. Thanks, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_bowes Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thank You all for the help I think I have solved the problems now. Much Apreciated! JamesBowsey456 On YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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