gilbo2 Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I'm seeking opinions of the Hornby LMS Coronation Coach Pack - R4588. It arrived just after Christmas to run with my existing Hornby Duchass of Norfolk (R2531). Although not too easy from photos, what do you think of the colour match?The maroon is slightly darker and the gold lines are not as bright?/media/tinymce_upload/IMG_3825b.jpg /media/tinymce_upload/IMG_3823b.jpg
gilbo2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Posted January 4, 2015 I'm seeking opinions of the Hornby LMS Coronation Coach Pack - R4588. It arrived just after Christmas to run with my existing Hornby Duchess of Norfolk (R2531). Although not easy from photos, what do you think of the colour match? (links below) The maroon is slightly darker and the gold lines are not as bright? http://tinyurl.com/offyltt http://tinyurl.com/lfr85bf
Yelrow Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I dont think it is a colour match. My wife, as a quilter, would be horrified, if she bought these for matching material. john
2e0dtoeric Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 In real life, the only time colours were an exact match was when a full train came out of the workshop, new. Depending on the base metals, and how they were exposed to sunlight, rain, loco exhaust, etc etc, they all ended up slightly different colours! So, unless you want a pristine - brand-new - straight from the paint-shed match, I wouldn't worry about it! Is there a blue add-on set? I've just tried a digit either side of the one given, with no joy.
gilbo2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Posted January 4, 2015 I've only seen the maroon version as a pack at the moment. As you can perhaps tell, I'm quite disappointed as on the layout the gold lines just don't stand out compared to the loco :-(
walkingthedog Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I agree with 2e0. Coaches faded. I wouldn't mind betting they weren't exactly the same colour as the loco when freshly outshopped.
Bulver Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Don't know if this video will help http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JR6eOUnu9sQ. I think the views expressed by 2e0d and WTD may be borne out by this, as, to me, even freshly outshopped there appears to be slight colour variations between the loco and the carriage attached to it
gilbo2 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Posted January 4, 2015 Good comments but on the model coaches the gold lines are just so much duller which is my biggest disappointment.
walkingthedog Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I suggest you return them to whoever you purchased them from. Maybe another set will be brighter.
Postman Prat Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Even the Maroon Duchess (de-streamlined, 1960 condition) is a rotten colour. Nothing like what it should be !!
poliss Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 Take a look at this 1930s archive film at 1:25.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYERL1YgulA
81F Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 The Colour match doesnt look too bad to me (but my colour diferentiation is a little dulled). I have to admit I have a similar problem with my Blue Coronation (not train pack), the train pack coaches (bought separately) and two other coronation coaches bought individually, so I effectively have three colour differences between the blue on the loco to varying greys on the rooves of the coaches!Initially it did grate a bit but I am now use to it. However, of more concern is the Br Mk 1 coach bogies and the GWR 57' Collet coach underfames these coaches use. Also the spacing of the windows indicate that the coach should be a composite not an all first. In addition do you have the brake coach? if yes I bet it doesnt have a guards ducket. Such a shame they uses the Railroad Stannier coach as a basis rather than their mainstream version.Mind you I bet it looks impressive on the move - I know my blue one does.
81F Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 I think I've posted this link before but this is the Official LMS film (for the blue one I suspect) although it's all in Black and white https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UusbDp3sv2Y
Coronation.Scot Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 It's about time Hornby sorted out their LMS streamlined locos & coaches. I've yet to find one which is correct. As for the red/gold striped coaches - I'd sling them in the bin because they weren't built like that in real life anyway. The only time you'd see a red streamliner hauling red/gold striped coaches in the UK was on the test run of 6220(6229) out of Euston prior to the USA tour of 1939. And at that they'd be of completely different design to these nasty Hornby efforts with humongous windows. I can't believe people pay £40 each secondhand for them. The blue/silver coaches are missing the correct roof details. And no 50ft Kitchen Cars which there would have been two of in a 9 car rake. The boards on the sides of the blue coaches were only on during the first season of 1937, after which they words THE CORONATION SCOT were painted directly onto the coach bodies, just over the windows. The one thing which really grates me about the Hornby blue streamliners is the louvered vent at the front, which of course only went on the red & black streamliners. The black streamliner tender never had the top cowling EVER, but it's there on all the Hornby ones. Yeah tooling etc etc. Bugs the hell out of me. And red streamlined tenders had red underframes NOT black ones Hornby. Arrgghh! R3101 is almost correct apart from the stupid silver painted strip running underneath (as incorrectly done on the full size NRM's LMS 6229). Silver bead strips were ONLY on the blue streamliners. One day Hornby might add a vertical crease between the front smokebox doors where they meet up. Wake me up when that one happens! Any chance of doing the centre wheel bosses burnished please on the blue & red Duchesses? I have several streamliners and the red 6220 loco looks well washed out in colour terms, especially alongside LMS coaches (Airfix & Mainline). If you want to run a red streamliner then match it with just ordinary red LMS coaches because that's how they'd run back in the day anyway, to be prototypical.
gilbo2 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 I ended up returning as I really was not happy with them in the end :-(
I like cars Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 The more I see it, the more I get used to it, and the more natural it looks.
Fazy Posted April 2, 2017 Posted April 2, 2017 I'm not always sure if it's the paint or the top coat Hornby uses. Some modelers have taken to T cutting new models. Which brings out the rich dark red. Then respraying with a clearer top coat. On the odd model I have tried it does seem to work. But don't know if it could help with colour matching stock.
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