shippingboy Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I am in the process of rebuilding the layout and am still running everything with an Elite controller - and everything is fine until I run a Midland Pullman made by the competition begiining with B .... starting from cold everything works ok for about 10 minutes and then if I stop the Pullman and restart then every loco on the system starts at the same time - creating unimageinable chaos - I have contact B and asked them for help and they suggest contact with Hornby - before I do that has anyone else had a similar problem ?? or does anyone have any ideas - if I take the Pullman off the track everything is back to normal - it has factory fitted Decoders !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 You are allowed to say Bachmann, look I just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 You could try resetting the Elite. That might help. If it doesn't, then how old is your Pullman? If less than six months then I'd suggest taking it back to the shop for a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 This should really be on the DCC threads! - Mod's?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB51 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 As loco control returns to normal operation when the Pullman is removed from the track I don't think the Elite will be at fault. The Pullman on the other hand ......... R- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Try breaking down the Pullman into it's separate coaches, just put the power car on, and see what happens, then add one coach at a time until it goes daft. That way you can pin down which bit of the set is causing the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippingboy Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 Thanks for all the above I will give them all a try and report back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The fact that it happens after 10 minutes suggests an overload caused by overheating, (how many locos are you running), but that still shouldn't result in all the other locos running away is if they were detecting DC power, which is why I suggested resetting the Elite.It's also a good idea to turn DC off in all locos in CV29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Sounds to me like a dodgy decoder in the B team set is overheating then disrupting the DCC signal to the rest of the fleet which see it as straight DC and loopy. Don't ask me how it could do this as I don't know. As RogB says its not likely to be the Elite due to normal running when the Pullman is removed. As poliss says make sure all the other locos have DC running turned off in CV29. An easy way to check is lift each loco and press a PP3 9v battery against the driving wheels. If they whizz round then DC running is enabled, if not its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 If everything returns to normal when you remove the Bachmann from the track, it sounds very like this Loco is causing the problem. I certainly would NOT reset the Elite just because of a problem caused by one Loco. As stated above, if it is within warranty take it back or even if not and you bought it from a recognised dealer, take it back for investigation.I once had a problem where a short caused all my Loco's that were on the layout at the time to reset to the default id of 3. This doesn't appear to be the case with yours though, if everything returns to normal when the offending Loco is removed. I had to reprogram all of the decoders that were on the layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Resetting the Elite won't cause any problems and has been know to fix some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanBuzz Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I have a Bachmann Midland Pullman set, and use an Elink with Railmaster. Gives me no problem at all. I believe there is a chip in each power car, which should be set to the same code. Suggest you test each power car separately to see if both give the same problem, and check that both have the same code. Obviously they are wired in opposition so coach A will go forward and reverse as you expect, Coach F will be in reverse (ie selecting forward will make it go backwards). I think I recoded mine separately.I believe the Elite and Elink are essentially the same firmware, and am not aware of any reported problems.If checking the coding etc doesn't work then I would be thinking one or other chips are faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDS Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Resetting the Elite won't cause any problems ...Oh, I thought it deleted all your Loco settings, name, id etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It'll delete the names, if I remember correctly, but they can always be replaced without too much trouble.Several people have reported that resetting their Elite has fixed odd loco behaviour. I'd do it before going to all the trouble of taking the loco back to the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.