Keith Morden Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Can you reset the R8427 Accessory Decoder once coded via the Select? Inadvertently, I have coded two decoders starting with the same number 61. Despite attempting to overwrite one, the numbers remain as set via the SELECT. I have reset the Select, but this has not affected the address numbers given to the Decoders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelrow Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Hi keith, welcome to the forum. One of the drawbacks with the select, is its limitations, concerning cvs/ decoders. Until a learned man comes along, do you have a friend, or a local model shop, with better facilities. They would be able to help, i belive. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Just to say that the correct product number is R8247. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ngr4y Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Can you reset the R8427 Accessory Decoder once coded via the Select? Inadvertently, I have coded two decoders starting with the same number 61. Despite attempting to overwrite one, the numbers remain as set via the SELECT. I have reset the Select, but this has not affected the address numbers given to the Decoders.Hi Keith,I don't use a Select, I have an Elite, but from what I can tell from posts on this Forum and the Select manual, it doesn't have a seperate pair of output terminals which are used ONLY for programming loco and accessory decoders, as the Elite does. Instead, you have to disconnect the power output terminals from your main layout and connect them to a programming track - the manual describes a way of being able to switch the Select between the main layout and the programming track by means of a switch. Once you have the programming track in place, you can connect ONE R8247 decoder to it and ask the Select to program its address. By the way, the manual suggests that the address you key in to the Select should be a multiple of four e.g. 60 will give you four ports on the decoder with addresses 60, 61, 62 and 63. After the first decoder has been programmed, disconnect it from the programming track and connect the second decoder. You could the program it with address 64 for example, which will give you 4 ports on this decoder with addresses 64, 65, 66 and 67.Once both decoders have been programmed, you can then place them near to the points to which they will be wired, then connect them to the track or DCC bus if you are using one.Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Actually, Stingray, the first decoder address has to be 61 to enable 4 ports then the second decoder address would be 65.Address 60 only enables 1 port. HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1ngr4y Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Actually, Stingray, the first decoder address has to be 61 to enable 4 ports then the second decoder address would be 65.Address 60 only enables 1 port. HB.I was quoting from the Select manual, page 24:-1. Press and hold “SELECT”.The LCD display will flash “LA”.2. Enter the first address (60) on the keypad, and press “SELECT”.The red LED will flash up to seven times duringwhich the decoder will be accepting the command. If the LED flashes eight times, it is advisable to reprogramme the Decoder again.3.The point/accessory is ready for use.The other outlets have been automatically coded 61, 62, 63. Are you saying that this is not correct?Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Just confirming you definitely cannot do a reset with Select. But then, having programmed an 8247 with Select doesn't make it more or less likely you can reprogram it. Just try again until it works. And as you've found, resetting the Select gets you nowhere. The addresses are held in the decoder, not the controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Further to Stingrays messages the R8213 Hornby Select on line manual on this web site states in addition... Addressing Points/Accessories:Addressing a point motor or accessory that uses a solenoid motor is very similar to addressing a locomotive.For consistency it is advisable that the first point motor/accessory is addressed No. 60. Once addressed the other three outlets will be automatically programmed to 61, 62, 63.There after, the Accessory Decoder should be programmed in consecutive blocks of 4 (i.e 64, 67, 72, 75 etc. When programming subsequent Point Decoder ensure that other Point Decoders are disconnected from the track.So are Hornby wrong?Note: the On-line manual only refers to the old Hornby R8216 point decoder. There is no mention of the newer (and AFAIK now the only one available?) R8247 accessory decoder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Well, guys, there's an anomally because the current R8247 guide PDF download today states use 61 as first address to enable 4 ports, using 60 enables only 1 port. This is also stated in the Select manual page 24 that I am reading as I type this. I could post a scanned copy if required. Maybe Hornby updated this stuff recently but I got my Select manual in 2012. HB./media/tinymce_upload/c2a24158e53de6af5ce2235a94043cd6.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Its high time Hornby updated their On-Line Select manual!http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/downloads/view/index/cat/3Even their video shows use 61, etc....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gjFYlrXms&index=8&list=PL80F2B374019B6166 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 You are right, Flashbang. I noted that the edition no. of the online manual is M4642 whereas my Select manual, which I got in Dec 2010, is edition M4642B and refers to the R8216 points decoder. HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Morden Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 I’ve left the decoder with a Hornby stockist to reset .Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Good plan, Keith, then address it as 65 & you will get all your points working. HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Morden Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 One decoder is now fine, but still an issue with one port on the other (????)- Hornby agreed to take it back for consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Just to say again, there is no reason at all to reset before reprogramming. If you have put the wrong addresses in or the decoder has reset itself, just program the correct ones in. And on one port not working, this has been a problem with 8247s for years, one or more ports not working, especially after a short on the layout, which can also cause them to reset and lose the addresses you programmed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Morden Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 The bottom line is that Hornby found the decoder worked, but asked me to return the Select to update to v1.5. Both now returned and working well. Hopefully, the end of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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