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    Hornby in big legal trouble???

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    If anything Hattons copied Bachmann, Rails made the Terrier as nobody else made it at the time. I gather the same goes for the Prairie..............

     

     

    There's enough of evidence online to show that Hornby's L&MR 3rd Class wagon was well into development already. Infact it was measured up along with Rocket and the 1st Class coaches. Once again (and not that it is wrong or sinful), Rails decided to cash in on the Era 1 pot of gold. It was a risk they took when there was an unannounced one in development.

    Besides Rails advertised theirs as 2nd Class i.e with seating and Hornby's was 3rd Class i.e. without seating. So technically even Rails could have go ahead as the wagon may have been identical on the outside, but they were different.

    Hornby in big legal trouble???

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    @ColinB
    So true. I find It’s funny that Simon says give us suggestions it’s your range, yet for...............

     

     

    The Class 91 was mentioned at Warley 2016 when Hornby announced the Class 800 IEP and Class 87. The Hornby rep at the time of the briefing clearly mentioned that the Class 87 was chosen first as it was cheaper to tool and said that the Class 91 would follow. Cavalex took an unnecessary risk by announcing their Class 91 project. After the Hornby announcement, Cavalex said they received more orders but still decided to cancel their model.

    Hornby in big legal trouble???

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    Of they go again, class 66, Terrier, Prairie, 4 and 6 wheels coaches, are Hornby so devoid of ideas that they have to copy someone else?..............

     

     

    The Hornby Class 66 is in no way shape or form anywhere close to the specifications of the Hattons Class 66. The Bachmann Class 66 is also ahead of the Hornby Class 66 by a country mile. What screwed the Hattons Class 66 was terrible QC and Hattons' absolute lack of communication about it thereafter. At no point in time did Hattons issue a statement about the defective model.

    The Hornby Terrier wasn't rushed out by Hornby at all. It was an Oxford Rail model that came under the Hornby brand. So no, Hornby didn't duplicate the Dapol/Rails Terrier.

    The GWR Prairie could possibly be duplication but since Dapol have such long development times, it's hard to say who started first. Either way D*p*l won. They played it slow and steady, and they had the better model

    The Class 91 was mentioned at Warley 2016 when Hornby announced the Class 800 IEP and Class 87. The Hornby rep at the time of the briefing clearly mentioned that the Class 87 was chosen first as it was cheaper to tool and said that the Class 91 would follow. Cavalex took an unnecessary risk by announcing their Class 91 project. After the Hornby announcement, Cavalex said they received more orders but still decided to cancel their model.

    The 4-wheel and 6-wheel coaches are the only ones that they deliberately copied. Not the best idea from them. But thankfully the generic coaches are good sellers. Sadly the Hattons ones are delayed significantly. I'm sure they have the better one on paper. But if things end up like the Class 66, then I'm worried for them.

    Class 43 HST - Executive Livery

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    Hey Mike,

    Welcome to the hobby. Whilst I understand your frustration with prices, one cannot expect Hornby to just keep a stock of certain items all the time. Model trains are manufactured in batches that consist of anywhere between 500-3000 pieces of a certain product. Each and every item will have varying degrees of success when it comes to sales. As far as I know, there's only a few items that remain constant in the Hornby catalogue (eg: 0-4-0ST Smokey Joe, Hornby Railroad Flying Scots man etc.). No other items are constantly in stock.

    You must bear in mind that regardless of how popular a model or livery may be, Hornby cannot be expected to keep them in stock all the time. Eventually supply will overtake demand and Hornby will be at a loss. At some point even discounting them won't help. There's a difference between Hornby's Railroad Flying Scotsman and Mallard when compared to Hornby's HSTs. This difference being their target markets, price points and overall fame. Believe it or not locos like the Flying Scotsman and Mallard have way more international fame than the HST. Steam locos tend to capture the eyes of many. They'll produce what sells out faster. The HSTs are more expensive to produce, their aimed at the serious modeller and collector and the HST whilst still famous worldwide, still has a majority of it's following in the UK. Besides, there's far more liveries that are in demand for the HSTs. When people think of steam in the UK or the LNER or famous steam engines....Flight Scotsman and Mallard pop into their minds first, not LNER A3 and LNER A4. Talk about an HST and IC Executive and IC Swallow are not always the first things that pop into people's heads.

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