2e0dtoeric Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Watching a well-known You-tube modeller, the other day, applying static grass. they clipped the 'negative' wire to one of the rails of the track on a large DCC layout.-Now - I know that the high voltage track cleaner devices can kill decoders, but does the high violtage of a static generator not affect them or the controller, equally badly?-Does anyone REALLY know, no speculation, please, I can do that myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Hi Eric - I always thought that the wire clipped to track or a nail in the PVA was just an earthing lead? A bit like the cable that runs from your consumer unit and clamped to your water pipe. I'm not electrically minded as some, so probably a stupid answer. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I would have thought that the rails were well insulated from anything painted with PVA such as ground cover and other scenery! The rails sit on plastic sleepers normally and plastic is an excellent insulator! Static charges kill many electronic chips. Hence why manufacturers of electronics, their installers and repair engineers wear anti static devices which are connected to ground/earth or they use an anti static mat to work on, again normally connected to earth. When I make PIC micro controller electronics I wear a earth wrist strap. Assemblers in electronic factories often wear ankle earthing straps, as it leaves their hands free and unhindered. You can see a wrist type one in an assembly area this in this video at around 12:55 minute in . and in this video at around 1:18 I would never use a static generator anywhere near anything electronic. So my advice would be remove all locos with decoders fitted. Disconnect the DCC systems 'Track' connection from the rails or a Bus pair if used. Push a pin into the wet PVA for the static connection and do not use the rails. Then you're safer. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morairamike Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 When I use my static applicator the track is totally disconnected from all controllers and from adjacent boards. All locos are removed from the layout and the pin is stuck in the wet glue area. Not all experts are experts but it works for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 Your thoughts coincide with mine, then.I can only presume that the modeller in question was very lucky, because as far as I could tell, nothing was removed or disconnected from the track - and everything seemed to work afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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