Homelyn Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hi guysvery new to DCC, my nephew has got the flying Scotsman (DCC ready)set for Christmas and is already wanting to modify, so a couple of questions 1 - can the set run sound without fully converting to DCC? If so how?2 - if we convert to DCC, add a chip to the engine (which chips fit please) and get a DCC controller, lets say the 8213 - would that be all we need to get DCC up and running ? And could we run more than one engine using this controller? thanks for looking eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hi Homelyn........welcome to the Forum........Answer (1)......you may find a battery operated sound module which fits inside a truck or van that works when in motion but that is not a Hornby product......for "proper" sound you need DCC and a Hornby TTS decoder which will fit in the Scotsman but you will need to change the supplied speaker to a small 'Sugar Cube' type speaker in order for it to fit within the locomotive.Answer (2)........To convert to DCC you would need the Hornby R8249 decoder which has the 8 pin plug attached ready to fit. (unless you go TTS route)....The Hornby R8213 Select controller is an entry level model which can operate up to 5 locos at the same time (on seperate tracks preferably to avoid collisions).....it will also operate most of the sounds on the TTS decoder.............HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 If you go down the DCC route, you will also need to replace or modify your track power connections for ones that are DCC friendly. The DC Analogue track power connectors are not suitable for DCC, unless you open them up and remove the DC Analogue suppression capacitor inside them. Or just replace them with the DCC variants R8241 or R8242..For DCC, you will also need to fit R8232 DCC point clips to all your Hornby track points..The R8213 Select controller doesn't read / write DCC Configuration Variables [CVs] apart from a small number of very basic ones. This will severely hamper your ability to fine tune the running of your DCC (especially TTS) locos and locos equipped with DCC Sound....like volume adjustments for example..The battery operated motion detector sound boxes are quite effective for what they are. Saving a huge cost compared to a full upgrade of everthing you have from DC to DCC to get sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Quick aside to avoid confusion - HOMELYN is not me! 😛(it must be getting late - one line and two typo's!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsham Ed Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Hi all,‘Apologies for high jacking this thread, but i’m Also looking to go DCC from analogue. If I go ahead and purchase a DCC controller would my analogue trains no longer work?Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 All your questions will be answered if you read my PDF document downloadable from the forum. The document is titled "Getting Started with Track Expansion Packs" and is downloadable from the sticky post of the same title located at the top of the forum 'General Discussion' section. Don't be put off by the document title, Section 6 in the document gives a lot of newbie information about going DCC..Although it is technically possible for some DCC controllers (not eLink) to operate a DC Analogue loco. It is NOT at all recommended (read the recent thread linked below for the reasons why). If you go down the DCC path, you really must put DCC decoders in your DC Analogue locos, else you really do risk damaging the DC loco motors..https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/forum/select-controller-and-overload/?p=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howbi Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 @Corsham Ed..........It is very inadvisable to try and run an analogue loco on a DCC track......you are likely to burn the motor out.........just switch controller to DC for those unchipped models........when you have fitted decoders to your locos then you can enjoy DCC........also you can run a digital loco on the analogue controller......if you have the analogue power track this has a small capacitor under the plastic cover which must be removed for reliable running on DCC.......going back to DC temporarily will not be a problem.......HB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 BUT - You MUST take all the dc loco's off the track, or park them in isolated sidings, where the power is switched off, before conncting a DCC controller.Also, you cannot have a DCC and a dc controller connected to the track at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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