dream walker Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 good day /having now purchased several tts decoders and come across many problems/A1/A3 TTS decoder removed digitrax decoder and replaced with tts A1/A3 loco went forward then stopped decoder become very hot no sound at all checked address no reading /tested speaker ok so problem yet again with tts returning back to retailer for full refund.in the last month hormby 4f tts loco decoder went down started making crackling sound then stopped working unable to read /class 40 tts loc same problem/ looking at soldering on chip very poor .the cost of tts very cheap i no why. no more tts for me this is getting very costley .tts in king class still working replacment in 4ftts loco still working at the moment.i will only purchase top bran sound decoders.from now on been using digitrax sfx sound decoders for over 10 years and still working fine /the other problem i see with tts decoders is reading cv they dont all work..the tts sound is not bad if you replace the speakers but what good is that if they keep going down i realy wished hornby had hit the market with tts sound the cost of these decoders are great if they work. hornby please sort it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Are you asking a question dream walker or just having a little vent. We know these decoders work although with 3 documented shortcomings: - the speaker fails more than you would expect, sometimes resulting in crackling and often needs to be replaced with a smaller sugar cube type anyway. - older locos can overload it - there is a firmware issue with some and usually only with other than Hornby controllers, fixed by contacting HCC for return to update the firmware. What controller are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 You say you can’t read TTS CVs. I can read them no problem with eLink or Elite. Railmaster also reads them by the dozen for you. Often it is the controller that can’t read CVs as some effectively program on the main.You must be the unluckiest person on this forum to have three TTS decoders in a row go belly up.In such circumstances look for the common factor...Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_croft Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I’ve fitted several TTS decoders to other models such as bachmann class 37’s as well as upgrading the speaker on dozens of others for people and only one decoder has failed in that whole time (which I got a full refund on), I dont think the quality is bad at all. The area where they lack the most in my opinion is that some locos require a lot of CV changes to make them run smoothly, something that surprised me when even the cheapest none sound decoders will still achieve smooth running with very little (if any) adjustment. If so many if the decoders you are fitting have failed maybe check how you are fitting them, are they getting crushed maybe or is something allowing them to short out?Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 You dont appear to have gotten the hang of replies yet. Just scroll down and type your reply in the big empty white box. Ignore the blue button with the white arrow.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream walker Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 hi the dcc controler i use is a digitrax which can read cv with out any problems and the computer is used with a digitrax programer which can change sound files theres nothinging my set up can not do with cv reading.i do no hornby decoders dont like bachmann motors which in case i reset the motor funtion. ii have been using dcc for well over 10 years. the sfx digitrax sound decoders cost around £45.00 for 8bit to £55.00 for 16bit cost more than tts but do a lot more and have stay alive.what i am saying is tts are could value only if they work/ the sound is very good for the cost .has for cv reading i have had problems with all tts decoder i am not new to the dcc sound i have been using it for over 10 years i no how to read all cv settings.i can also read cv from my computer using elink .has for crackling speaker i replaced the speaker and the crackling was the same i replaced it with i digitrax box speaker which cost around £9.00 so i am not using cheap speakers the 4f tts loco was new .i no hornby tts use 8 ohm so i match the ohm perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream walker Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 the common factor is they are not up to the job i have been doing dcc sound for over 10 years i do my own sound files. my set up can read any cvs with out problems the problem is in the tts decoder i can add wav files i can change whistle sounds i can do most anything i want to change on cvs. with digitrax sfx decoders. there is a problem with the tts decoder. i hope hornby can put this right has the cost of the decoders is realy good.and i do like the sound that come from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream walker Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 hi i do no that hornby tts decoders dont like bachmann motors and i always change the motor funtions tts .i no you can get locos to run better by changing cvs that goes for most decoders they need a liitle fine tuning.i would never put a hornby tts in heljan has the motor draws more current i would not connect a smoke unit to a tts has this my over load it. so i do take great care before i fitt a tts i dont think its anything i am doing thats coursing the proplem . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream walker Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 has raf as pointed out please for give me for replying in the in correct way i now no how to reply .lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 OK now we have that squared away.You realise you cannot change the sounds on TTS decoders or even remap them onto other function buttons as they are a write once read many times device. All you can do is alter the volume(s) and change a few CV parameters like accel, decell, motor algorithms, etc.I would have thought your controller would be able to readback CV values.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream walker Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 OK now we have that squared away.You realise you cannot change the sounds on TTS decoders or even remap them onto other function buttons as they are a write once read many times device. All you can do is alter the volume(s) and change a few CV parameters like accel, decell, motor algorithms, etc.I would have thought your controller would be able to readback CV values.Rob it can i no you can not do much with the tts but it should read its own values Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream walker Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 OK now we have that squared away.You realise you cannot change the sounds on TTS decoders or even remap them onto other function buttons as they are a write once read many times device. All you can do is alter the volume(s) and change a few CV parameters like accel, decell, motor algorithms, etc.I would have thought your controller would be able to readback CV values.Rob it can i no you can not do much with the tts but it should read its own valuesi have problems reading tts cv150.i can do all my cvs and read back on my computer with digitrax decoders i can read all my hornby tts using my elink.and using my digi master staion set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Please Dream Walker, as Rob requested and I am re-iterating. Please stop clicking the 'White Arrow in Blue Button'. This is not a 'Reply to this post button. I have just removed about 10 of your posts where you just clicked the blue button, but didn't add anything new. Even the ones I left behind, make it difficult to tell what is old and what is new text. The 'Reply' box is located at the very bottom of the page along with the Green 'Reply' button..Not having a go. It just makes it far easier to help if we can see what is new text. It makes for easier reading. All relative newbies use the blue button. I blame the forum software developers for putting it there, where newbies expect a 'reply to post' button to be..Maybe this will help./media/tinymce_upload/d188321cb08f0b260e3c15de36a8d34a.jpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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