Intelligo Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I've purchased this engine at a local auction. I would like to sell it and lp appreciate any help. I haven't been able to find out much about it online. I think it is 00 gauge, but don't know that for sure. The color is mallard green. It is all metal, the best I can tell. It is marked Mallard 4468 on both sides and No. 4468 on the front. It is marked 20738 on the undercarriage. It measures 19 centimeters (7.5") in length. Any help will be most appreciated. Thanks,Brenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Mallard in green with 4468?Were A4's ever in Apple Green during LNER times.If it's green it should be numbered 60022.Does this look like it?https://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-locomotives/wrenn-mallard-60022-br-green-a4-pacific-4-6-2-locomotive-w2211.html I can find an LNER green Wrenn A4, but it's 4482 Golden Eagle. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 At 19 centimetres and metal, this is not a running model, just a (1:100?) display model..GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 This may help identifying you engines The following LNER A4 Pacifics were originally Apple green when built. 4482, 4483, 4484, 4485, 4486, 4487, 4493, 4494, 4495. All were eventually re-painted Garter blue between September 1937 and October 1938. Duiring the green period 4483 to 4487 had a black 'smokebox' which had a vertical joint between the black and green sections, which looked remarkably ugly. All the others had the black limited to the front and to a narrow 'parabolic' curve following the shape of the streamlining. Cab roof was black of course. 2509 to 2512 were originally Silver grey when built but repainted Garter blue between November 1937 and August 1938. All the rest appeared in Garter blue. During the War they all received black austerity livery but were repainted Garter blue again after the War ended. In 1946 they were allocated new numbers 1 to 34 as follows, 2509 to 2512 became14 to 17, 4482 to 4487 became 23 to 28, 4488 to 4492 became 9 to 13, 4493 to 4497 became 29 to 31, 4498 became 7, 4462 became 4, 4463 to 4465 became 18 to 20, 4466 became 6, 4467 and 4468 became 21 and 22, 4469 was destroyed in an air raid on York June 1942, 4499 became 2, 4500 became 1, 4900 became 32, 4901 became 5, 4902 and 4903 became 33 and 34. In BR days they were all repainted in BR livery and renumbered 60001 to 60034. All received BR blue lined black and white at first (1949 - 1950) and then BR dark green lined orange and black from 1951. In 1948 four locomotives were painted a purple blue colour experimentally - these were 60024, 60027, 60028, 60029, but this was soon changed to standard express blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rana Temporia Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Possibly one of the Amercom or Atlas cast display models? Also could be one of the Lone Star 000 models which were made in a range of colours. If it's Lone Star Ramsay's guide has it between £5 and £8 depending on condition but the value is whatever someone will pay on the day, possibly substantially less than that if it's not in good condition and no box or blister pack as they were supplied in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Interestingly the number 20738 quoted is a part number for plate under a Wrenn A4. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WRENN-model-railway-pick-up-plate-cover-20738-for-CITY-A4-and-2-6-4-Tank-locos/401722080456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 In that case, could it be a renumbered/repainted Wrenn (or even Hornby-Dublo with a Wrenn baseplate) loco without its tender? 19 centimetres = 47'6" at 00.GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Two further matters, it is difficult to give advice about valuation because condition is everything. The best prices are obtained for models in pristine condition that work well, and are complete with original box in perfect condition. Missing components (e.g. tender) or box will reduce value considerably, and if it doesn't work will reduce it even further, it becomes 'spares or repairs', worth very little. If the model has been interefered with, for example repainted or renumbered in an inauthentic or untidy manner it will render it close to valuless. The second point is that to give any advice it is usually necessary to describe it in considerable detail and usually enclose a picture or two. And if you intend to sell it on an auction site this is essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intelligo Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 Mallard in green with 4468?Were A4's ever in Apple Green during LNER times.If it's green it should be numbered 60022.Does this look like it?https://wrennmodelrailways.com/wrenn-locomotives/wrenn-mallard-60022-br-green-a4-pacific-4-6-2-locomotive-w2211.html I can find an LNER green Wrenn A4, but it's 4482 Golden Eagle. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Hi Brenda, is the 19cm / 7.5" the length of locomotive PLUS tender or just locomotive?Is it just a cast metal display locomotive, or is it electric powered?All / most photos are 'moderated' at ~09:00 weekday mornings, but a couple of photos would be nice to see. Thanks,Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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