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[81F]

Seeing how popular Southern Electrics seem to be I wonder if there is a market for London Transport or even MET models?

I know there was some tube stock made by another manufacturer which could be motorised but I think they were limited editions,

As were the LT pannier tanks made by another manufacturer (Im ignorring L90 made by hornby as it was the wrong version of the 57XX!)

Personally I think they Beyer Peacock 4-4-0T would be a really handsom model in MET red (though I'd probably repaint

it in Cambrian Black!)

Any thoughts

[LCDR]

81F said:

Seeing how popular Southern Electrics seem to be I wonder if there is a market for London Transport or even MET models?

I know there was some tube stock made by another manufacturer which could be motorised but I think they

were limited editions, As were the LT pannier tanks made by another manufacturer (Im ignorring L90 made by hornby as it was the wrong version of the 57XX!)

Personally I think they Beyer Peacock 4-4-0T would be a really handsom model in MET red (though

I'd probably repaint it in Cambrian Black!)

Any thoughts

Personally I believe there is a significant potential market for London Underground stock in 4mm scale. The Metropolitan Bo-Bo electric locomotives are iconic, and with Sarah Siddons

still turning up on Rail tours that type would attract a lot of interest. There are two manufacturers in 'O' gauge currently announcing models of this locomotive in 2012.

The new 'S' surface stock might also go well with modern period modellers, as

would 'Overground' stock. The 'A' stock is now rapidly disappearing and a tribute to these might be justified.

My personal favourite has to be the 1938 O/P/Q surface stock which had a very distinctive appearance with their wide flared bodies, very

'art-deco'.

Deep tube stock also has its appeal. The 1938 tube stock, already in production as an unpowered display model by a diecast vehicle manufacturer, would permit the Isle of Wight trains to be modelled. The same also applies to the 1927 'Standard'

stock. Airfix actually planned to make a tube train in 4mm just before the company abandoned model railways.

So I do think London Underground passenger stock is long overdue.

[malB]

I would like to see some of the surface "frieght/departmental" stock to run with my LT maroon/brick red liveried Pannier tank. I know some would be ex mainline just like the engine though from what I've seen photo wise was somewhat specialist and wouldn't

be in "run of the mill" use.

[mortehoe]

Impractical, I know, but a City and South London loco, and a couple of "Padded Cell" carriages would be a great addition, first deep tube railway. The 1927 standard stock was seen on BR in the 60's carrying out driver training/testing before being used

on the Isle of Wight, I remember seeing a couple of units at Wimbledon during this period.
Although I travelled on the stock on the I.o.W, I missed travelling on one in LT service by about 10 steps. So a "standard set" would not be out of place.

[4983HALL]

I HAVE JUST STARTED AGAIN AFTER 50 YEARS AND HAVE A LOCO AND TENDER FROM THE 60'S IT'S GREEN WITH THREE DRIVE WHEELS ON EACH SIDE PLUS A BOGY AT THE FRONT WITH 4 WHEELS AND A SIX WHEEL TENDER. THE LOCO IS CALLED ALBERT HALL No 4983 THE TENDER HAS GREAT

WESTERN ON THE SIDE. CAN ANYBODY TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ENGINE, I CAN NOT GET IT TO RUN. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

[LCDR]

Your model is probably a Tri-ang/Hornby version of catalogue no. R759 model which originally appeared in 1966 in BR livery but was given pre-Nationalisation treatment in 1970. The tender probably also has 'chuff-chuff' sound fitted, which was caused by

a cam on one axle reacting on a plastic finger attached to a sound box. (All pre-DCC!!).

The mechanism is a simple and robust design developed by Rovex which uses an open frame motor (classed X04) with current picked up through phosphor bronze strips

or nickel silver wire pressing on to the back of a pair of outer driving wheels on one side (the other side is not insulated and power reaches the motor through the chassis block).

Failure to operate can result from a number of causes ranging from

dirt on wheels, pick-ups, commutator, through to loose or missing wires, the pick ups becoming displaced or lost, or the carbon brushes missing or broken. Worst case scenario is a burnt out motor.

If you are not confident to service it yourself try

and find one of the old fashioned dealers oir enthusiasts (our friend on this forum Son of Triangman is just such a person) who are willing to give it a go. Parts are no longer made new but there is an active second hand network for the supply of bits and

pieces. The beauty of the models of that era is that a lot of parts were interchangable between different models.

[LCDR]

mortehoe said:

Impractical, I know, but a City and South London loco, and a couple of "Padded Cell" carriages would be a great addition, first deep tube railway. The 1927 standard stock was seen on BR in the 60's carrying out driver training/testing

before being used on the Isle of Wight, I remember seeing a couple of units at Wimbledon during this period.
Although I travelled on the stock on the I.o.W, I missed travelling on one in LT service by about 10 steps. So a "standard set" would not be out

of place.

The 'Standard' stock would certainly get my vote.