Go_West Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 walkingthedog Hi I had a friend that built a Deltic in 5in gauge it had 12 cylinders turning a dynomo to traction motors which was in the Model Engineer some 30 years ago it could be built like the German one on James May's BBC programme. Its just the price that the electric's come out at I just bought R2580 King Arthur "Excalibur" a great model but too fine to run if it ever hit the floor like people write here then I hate to think what would happen. As a kid most of pocket money went on Tri-ang suff you need a job now to buy this stuff.Like any company Hornby will only make what there is a demand for and one way would be as others do and ask pepole what engine to make and then get orders in first and a deposit that way they could see what money would be left after production cost's and shipping cost's are taken out. Most model shops will not even carry the water or oil now so looks a dead duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... walkingthedog Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hi gowestHornby haven't gone in for the special production runs as yet, but maybe they will one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... walkingthedog Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I've got plenty of fine detail locos and I run them all. I just don't let them hit the floor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Brightstar Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hi gowest,I see the Shop has stocks of the water and oil again.There are suppliers of distilled water (not ionised), so this should not be a problem, however if steam oil supplies dries up (pun), we could be in trouble finding an alternative supply.If you live within the M25 London ring road, there is a supplier of water offering 10 litres for £12.99and 20 litres for £20.99, with free delivery. For those living elsewhere in the country, there is a £7.50 courier delivery charge. These prices are plus VAT.I am thinking about ordering 10 litres and getting it delivered to my sister, who can bring it with her next time she comes to visit. I do not know about the rest of you live steamers, but I seem to get through a lot of water, very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... FinnerZ Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The first time I heard of live steam I was going somewhere on the tube with my grandparents when my grandfather spotted a catalogue for some model/toy company, which had the then £500 Mallard set. I admit that at the time I thought it cheating to use electricity and it far to expensive. However, a couple of years later, I saw the Mallard set at Harrods for £350 and this changed my views. After several months of watching amazon (and missing an excelent deal) I finally bought one for this price and got my dad to get a bottle of the water for me. Luckily I set up the layout on my kitchen tiled floor (not a table) because I tried to run it without coaches and had the inevitable crash. The reason for this is because I didn't know about the motor for the valve and having never heard the whistle, thought that the motor was a duck-like whistle; I therefore held the lever down as instructed and she came off the track, but luckily no damage was suffered.The next time I ran her the red light wasn't on when I started and what wasn't made clear in the instructions is that there is a red light before you go forwards, a red light shown before going backwards, but between that the whistle sounds and the light turns off - it took me a while to understand this. However, I soon learnt the controlls and dispite only very occasional use (even less now my LS power track is broken) I get great enjoyment out if it, especially now that I understand it. I feel that if the instructions were a little better phrased, people would be able to opperate with ease from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Brightstar Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hi FinnerZIt is interesting to read of your first experience with Live Steam. Most modellers cannot believe the problems caused by the instruction included with Live Steam locos, on their first run.I am glad that once you had worked out the method of control, enjoyed the experience.If youy search the internet you will find the a number of model shops still stock the power rail and it is also listed on the Hornby on-line shop. If fact I purchased a spare last week an I may purchase more while stocks last.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Walking the dog"Just thinking of an A4 with a pantograph" great made me laugh but a STEAM record . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Brightstar said:Hornby will be thinking that interest in Live Steam has disappeared.Brightstar I fear is right I listed under "what type of engine would you like" and the response is poor.Hornby have made a great job of these engines and with the best will in the world if people do not sound a bit more positive then I just dont know I can say if Hornby did make just one engine to test the water i would buy it what ever it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 year later... PastaCore Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hi I Have managed to get what appears to be a new unused LS Mallard Set, just before Christmas, The Price £350 which I thought wasn't overly priced, as I think Hornby were selling them somewhere near this price when they were still producing them. If the date on the box and Tender are anything to go by it was manufactured in 2009. After finding a stockist of distilled water,yesterday ( 2K Technologies ) in , also a lot of LS spares, I think today I am going to try and see if it works, I am still waiting on delivery of my rolling road, so I will see if I can rig something up to test the Loco until the road arrives, if all goes well, when the road comes,I will be able to get down to some driving lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... PastaCore Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 A quick update, my rolling road turned up, good old postman,and the Mallard works absolutly brilliant, I am well impressed, on the lookout now for the other Loco's in the range.Now to get down to designing a layout., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hi live steamersThe best thing about live steam is you dont know if an engine works well or poor or even at all until the wheels start to turn with electric its go or not go but live steam is just that and when the engine runs on the track with a load of coaches how fast and how controllable will it be as every engine is different and thats what makes it fun it as near as you will get to the real thing, have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... doublecee Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Live steam is amazing, and addictive.here are a few vids of my Hornby Live steamers in actionhttp://craigsgardenrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/last-years-videos.htmlEnjoy... and dont listen to anyone that says they fall off and are hard to control. It just isnt so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... bonnergen Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 doublecee said:Live steam is amazing, and addictive.here are a few vids of my Hornby Live steamers in actionhttp://craigsgardenrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/last-years-videos.htmlEnjoy... and dont listen to anyone that says they fall off and are hard to control. It just isnt so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... bonnergen Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Having just watched Your Vids doublecee this is a credit to You and shows how well live steam runs what a fantastic layout I have 5 live steam all run well buteach on e has it's own little querk's but thats the fun of Live steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... doublecee Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks Bonner. Glad you enjoyed them. Looking forward to some finer weather so I can get back out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Post a new reply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Post a new reply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 [reply]gowest said:I think i might just have clicked on the wrong bit sorry a PC is not as forgiving as a steam engine but remember for your PC or lap top to work somewhere someone is boiling water to make steam and generate electricity? I have pulled apart many A4's and A3's to build other engines and the one thing that is clear is the A3 is the best of the lot and the works will fit just about any of the outside cylinder engine with out to much work and Hornby must have made plans to continue at some time with other models so you never know it is such a great product one day an engine might just roll out. I have seen other steam engines in 3"1/2" gauge in kit form advertised with small production runs so this might be a way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... PastaCore Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Indeed what a nice layout and video, as a newcomer to Hornby Live Steam, it shows what can be achieved by these little marvels of engineering. I am busy planning a layout at the moment, indoors though, I decided to use the Metcalfe range of buildings, and have been busy making some of these up, keeping me occupied while I decide what, how and where to put the layout, garage or loft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 [reply]PastaCore said:Have you thought about making your own buildings by using a PC and a camra you can photograph a station and turn it into a 3D building by sticking the A4 printouts on to cardboard then gluing them to gether most of the buildings on my youtube layout are done like this, have a look a the Barnstaple station. Even the engine shed has a fan in the roof to take away the steam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7MIKxNlX6U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... PastaCore Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hi what an interesting video, and as I am a Photographer ( retired ) I will certainly have a go at putting the images on to card and see how they look, thanks for that. If you are a member of the OO live Steam club, I have just posted building a layout after 35 years break.Thanks again Gio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Archived This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Go to topic listing
walkingthedog Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hi gowestHornby haven't gone in for the special production runs as yet, but maybe they will one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I've got plenty of fine detail locos and I run them all. I just don't let them hit the floor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hi gowest,I see the Shop has stocks of the water and oil again.There are suppliers of distilled water (not ionised), so this should not be a problem, however if steam oil supplies dries up (pun), we could be in trouble finding an alternative supply.If you live within the M25 London ring road, there is a supplier of water offering 10 litres for £12.99and 20 litres for £20.99, with free delivery. For those living elsewhere in the country, there is a £7.50 courier delivery charge. These prices are plus VAT.I am thinking about ordering 10 litres and getting it delivered to my sister, who can bring it with her next time she comes to visit. I do not know about the rest of you live steamers, but I seem to get through a lot of water, very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnerZ Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The first time I heard of live steam I was going somewhere on the tube with my grandparents when my grandfather spotted a catalogue for some model/toy company, which had the then £500 Mallard set. I admit that at the time I thought it cheating to use electricity and it far to expensive. However, a couple of years later, I saw the Mallard set at Harrods for £350 and this changed my views. After several months of watching amazon (and missing an excelent deal) I finally bought one for this price and got my dad to get a bottle of the water for me. Luckily I set up the layout on my kitchen tiled floor (not a table) because I tried to run it without coaches and had the inevitable crash. The reason for this is because I didn't know about the motor for the valve and having never heard the whistle, thought that the motor was a duck-like whistle; I therefore held the lever down as instructed and she came off the track, but luckily no damage was suffered.The next time I ran her the red light wasn't on when I started and what wasn't made clear in the instructions is that there is a red light before you go forwards, a red light shown before going backwards, but between that the whistle sounds and the light turns off - it took me a while to understand this. However, I soon learnt the controlls and dispite only very occasional use (even less now my LS power track is broken) I get great enjoyment out if it, especially now that I understand it. I feel that if the instructions were a little better phrased, people would be able to opperate with ease from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightstar Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hi FinnerZIt is interesting to read of your first experience with Live Steam. Most modellers cannot believe the problems caused by the instruction included with Live Steam locos, on their first run.I am glad that once you had worked out the method of control, enjoyed the experience.If youy search the internet you will find the a number of model shops still stock the power rail and it is also listed on the Hornby on-line shop. If fact I purchased a spare last week an I may purchase more while stocks last.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Walking the dog"Just thinking of an A4 with a pantograph" great made me laugh but a STEAM record . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Brightstar said:Hornby will be thinking that interest in Live Steam has disappeared.Brightstar I fear is right I listed under "what type of engine would you like" and the response is poor.Hornby have made a great job of these engines and with the best will in the world if people do not sound a bit more positive then I just dont know I can say if Hornby did make just one engine to test the water i would buy it what ever it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 year later... PastaCore Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hi I Have managed to get what appears to be a new unused LS Mallard Set, just before Christmas, The Price £350 which I thought wasn't overly priced, as I think Hornby were selling them somewhere near this price when they were still producing them. If the date on the box and Tender are anything to go by it was manufactured in 2009. After finding a stockist of distilled water,yesterday ( 2K Technologies ) in , also a lot of LS spares, I think today I am going to try and see if it works, I am still waiting on delivery of my rolling road, so I will see if I can rig something up to test the Loco until the road arrives, if all goes well, when the road comes,I will be able to get down to some driving lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... PastaCore Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 A quick update, my rolling road turned up, good old postman,and the Mallard works absolutly brilliant, I am well impressed, on the lookout now for the other Loco's in the range.Now to get down to designing a layout., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hi live steamersThe best thing about live steam is you dont know if an engine works well or poor or even at all until the wheels start to turn with electric its go or not go but live steam is just that and when the engine runs on the track with a load of coaches how fast and how controllable will it be as every engine is different and thats what makes it fun it as near as you will get to the real thing, have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... doublecee Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Live steam is amazing, and addictive.here are a few vids of my Hornby Live steamers in actionhttp://craigsgardenrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/last-years-videos.htmlEnjoy... and dont listen to anyone that says they fall off and are hard to control. It just isnt so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... bonnergen Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 doublecee said:Live steam is amazing, and addictive.here are a few vids of my Hornby Live steamers in actionhttp://craigsgardenrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/last-years-videos.htmlEnjoy... and dont listen to anyone that says they fall off and are hard to control. It just isnt so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... bonnergen Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Having just watched Your Vids doublecee this is a credit to You and shows how well live steam runs what a fantastic layout I have 5 live steam all run well buteach on e has it's own little querk's but thats the fun of Live steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... doublecee Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks Bonner. Glad you enjoyed them. Looking forward to some finer weather so I can get back out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Post a new reply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Post a new reply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 [reply]gowest said:I think i might just have clicked on the wrong bit sorry a PC is not as forgiving as a steam engine but remember for your PC or lap top to work somewhere someone is boiling water to make steam and generate electricity? I have pulled apart many A4's and A3's to build other engines and the one thing that is clear is the A3 is the best of the lot and the works will fit just about any of the outside cylinder engine with out to much work and Hornby must have made plans to continue at some time with other models so you never know it is such a great product one day an engine might just roll out. I have seen other steam engines in 3"1/2" gauge in kit form advertised with small production runs so this might be a way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... PastaCore Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Indeed what a nice layout and video, as a newcomer to Hornby Live Steam, it shows what can be achieved by these little marvels of engineering. I am busy planning a layout at the moment, indoors though, I decided to use the Metcalfe range of buildings, and have been busy making some of these up, keeping me occupied while I decide what, how and where to put the layout, garage or loft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Go_West Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 [reply]PastaCore said:Have you thought about making your own buildings by using a PC and a camra you can photograph a station and turn it into a 3D building by sticking the A4 printouts on to cardboard then gluing them to gether most of the buildings on my youtube layout are done like this, have a look a the Barnstaple station. Even the engine shed has a fan in the roof to take away the steam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7MIKxNlX6U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... PastaCore Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hi what an interesting video, and as I am a Photographer ( retired ) I will certainly have a go at putting the images on to card and see how they look, thanks for that. If you are a member of the OO live Steam club, I have just posted building a layout after 35 years break.Thanks again Gio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Archived This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.
PastaCore Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hi I Have managed to get what appears to be a new unused LS Mallard Set, just before Christmas, The Price £350 which I thought wasn't overly priced, as I think Hornby were selling them somewhere near this price when they were still producing them. If the date on the box and Tender are anything to go by it was manufactured in 2009. After finding a stockist of distilled water,yesterday ( 2K Technologies ) in , also a lot of LS spares, I think today I am going to try and see if it works, I am still waiting on delivery of my rolling road, so I will see if I can rig something up to test the Loco until the road arrives, if all goes well, when the road comes,I will be able to get down to some driving lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaCore Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 A quick update, my rolling road turned up, good old postman,and the Mallard works absolutly brilliant, I am well impressed, on the lookout now for the other Loco's in the range.Now to get down to designing a layout., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hi live steamersThe best thing about live steam is you dont know if an engine works well or poor or even at all until the wheels start to turn with electric its go or not go but live steam is just that and when the engine runs on the track with a load of coaches how fast and how controllable will it be as every engine is different and thats what makes it fun it as near as you will get to the real thing, have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Live steam is amazing, and addictive.here are a few vids of my Hornby Live steamers in actionhttp://craigsgardenrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/last-years-videos.htmlEnjoy... and dont listen to anyone that says they fall off and are hard to control. It just isnt so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnergen Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 doublecee said:Live steam is amazing, and addictive.here are a few vids of my Hornby Live steamers in actionhttp://craigsgardenrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/last-years-videos.htmlEnjoy... and dont listen to anyone that says they fall off and are hard to control. It just isnt so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnergen Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Having just watched Your Vids doublecee this is a credit to You and shows how well live steam runs what a fantastic layout I have 5 live steam all run well buteach on e has it's own little querk's but thats the fun of Live steam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks Bonner. Glad you enjoyed them. Looking forward to some finer weather so I can get back out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Go_West Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 [reply]gowest said:I think i might just have clicked on the wrong bit sorry a PC is not as forgiving as a steam engine but remember for your PC or lap top to work somewhere someone is boiling water to make steam and generate electricity? I have pulled apart many A4's and A3's to build other engines and the one thing that is clear is the A3 is the best of the lot and the works will fit just about any of the outside cylinder engine with out to much work and Hornby must have made plans to continue at some time with other models so you never know it is such a great product one day an engine might just roll out. I have seen other steam engines in 3"1/2" gauge in kit form advertised with small production runs so this might be a way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaCore Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Indeed what a nice layout and video, as a newcomer to Hornby Live Steam, it shows what can be achieved by these little marvels of engineering. I am busy planning a layout at the moment, indoors though, I decided to use the Metcalfe range of buildings, and have been busy making some of these up, keeping me occupied while I decide what, how and where to put the layout, garage or loft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 [reply]PastaCore said:Have you thought about making your own buildings by using a PC and a camra you can photograph a station and turn it into a 3D building by sticking the A4 printouts on to cardboard then gluing them to gether most of the buildings on my youtube layout are done like this, have a look a the Barnstaple station. Even the engine shed has a fan in the roof to take away the steam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7MIKxNlX6U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaCore Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hi what an interesting video, and as I am a Photographer ( retired ) I will certainly have a go at putting the images on to card and see how they look, thanks for that. If you are a member of the OO live Steam club, I have just posted building a layout after 35 years break.Thanks again Gio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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