Ratch Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 To go with the Luftwaffe Erks I'm painting, they should have things to work on.Although the schemes are different, they're both of that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Thomas Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Probably a bit early for compliments. I will be watching with interest though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD45elect2000 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I counted your mechanics. My count is showing you need 8 aircraft to keep them all busy.Randall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 They'll be used on a number of vignettes and dioramas Randall.The 109s are going together smoothly.Offices insertedWings onCanopies being masked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD45elect2000 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 They'll be used on a number of vignettes and dioramas Randall.The 109s are going together smoothly. You know me Ratch, why build two when you can build 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 I have too many kits in my stash, and no other 109Es. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul71 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 watching this with interest ratch I've not built any 109s yet but a few sat waiting in my stash and some after market decals for BoB aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 I have primed and pre-shadedRLM 65 sprayed on the lower surfaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 Pre-shading gives a variation in tone, making the surface look less flat. It can help accentuate panel lines and areas where there might be shadow.RLM71 on the 109s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Thomas Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Ratch, I would be very interested in the answer to Rod’s second question about brush painting. Does preshading work here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 Ratch, I would be very interested in the answer to Rod’s second question about brush painting. Does preshading work here? No, not really. I suppose a similar effect could be achieved by stippling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share Posted March 8, 2023 I have masked the splinter camouflage, ready for airbrushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 RLM 70 airbrushed and masking removed.Some touching up to do before mottling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 Maybe its a case of colour perception, but to me, the RLM71 looks too olive green and the RLM70 looks fine (Black/Green). I have used RLM65 from two different manufacturers and they don't match. Every manufacturer sells their own interpretation of colours. I look on it as just part of the hobby finding the ones I'm happy with. I know lots of modellers like a big difference between RLM70/71, but I'm of the opinion that they were very close. I have some 1960s reference books that say the uppers on Luftwaffe aircraft during the BoB were just Black/Green. I think it's now generally accepted that all were splinter camouflaged and that photographic film of the time made the colours too close to call in monochrome.Anyway, the markings are on now, so not much more to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 All of the small bits - balance weights, aerial mast, machine guns etc - are still on the runners. I didn't want to knock them off when applying the decals. In hindsight it would have been better to leave the tail and the struts off too. It would have made masking easier. Something to remember if I do any of these again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 It may not look like much has been done, but much touching up has ensued. I knocked #2s aerial mast off while handling it for painting, so its in the box awaiting fitment after varnishing. I hope I've not overcooked the exhaust staining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Thomas Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Coming along nicely, in my view. I have always wanted to make more than one aircraft from the same squadron but could never work up the enthusiasm. Perhaps I should follow your example and make them at the same time, rather than one after the other. Still can’t come to terms with the Luftwaffe mottling without an airbrush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 Two ways you might try mottling:1 by stippling, using the ends of the brush with very little paint on (almost like dry brushing). Not drawing the brush along, but dabbing the filaments.2 use a sponge, again don't overload it.Best to practice on something expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Thomas Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Ok. Noted. I’ll be sure to post the results. I’ve never knowingly seen the results of these techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 I did the sponge method before I got an airbrush. Unfortunately it was before I took photos too. If you tear the sponge it will give a non-uniform coverage, and remember, not too wet. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD45elect2000 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I have some stencils I want to try at some point. I like the results of these builds however. Randall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thanks Randall.Stencils? Explain please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD45elect2000 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Ive been wanting to try these. I might have the opportunity when I make the Axis planes for the pedastal group. I have to think that these could be used with brushes. I have one more set for Bf109s trop. I think the insignia could be used on any plane. Randall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul71 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 they are looking good ratch the mottling looks good think that's what has put me off building these not having an airbrush.I've done the old 109 kit and did the the stippling with one of humbrols stipple brushes, it just doesn't look right no matter what i try, i do tend to stay away from it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Ive been wanting to try these. I might have the opportunity when I make the Axis planes for the pedastal group. I have to think that these could be used with brushes.I have one more set for Bf109s trop. I think the insignia could be used on any plane.Randall Oh I see. I'd call them masks, And yes the Baulkenkreus (sic) could be used on lost of aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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