239507 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I have just got a new boxed Clun Castle DCC Sound. I have left the LA at factory setting 3 and given a new LA of 10 everything works well but an audible sound is emitted from the Loco, much like a non DCC on a DCC set-up but not so loud, which you can at times hear above the DCC sound.There also seams to be a lot of play in the boggies, and sometimes it can tend to derail on points.I must add the detail is A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAus Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I also have the Clun Castle, I do get a low hum at very low speeds with the sound off but otherwise no issues. The only setting I have changed is to reduce the sound volume. Re the tracking over points it seems very good although one time I did have the tender connection on the short setting and that caused issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morairamike Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Just out of interest the CLUN CASTLE splasher name plate is at Newton Abbott mueseum, was shown on Great British rail journeys with Michael Portillo last Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 239507 said: I have just got a new boxed Clun Castle DCC Sound. I have left the LA at factory setting 3 and given a new LA of 10 everything works well Locomotive Address (LA) is either 3 or 10, it cant be both? Is the sound you are hearing amplifier hiss. What sound is there when Sound is turned Off (F1 set to Off)? Depending on your DCC system you may be able to turn down the amplifier volume a little, but you would need the Elite or other DCC system that allows CV alterations. The Select cannot do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Does it make this noise when it is stopped, or running, or both? With the F1 (sound effects) on or off? If the sound is 'on', is it the boiler hissing noise you are hearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAus Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Must say my hum is starting to annoy. As soon as I apply power to the unit it starts and stays until I get some speed up, coming back at low speed again. All my trains have some but not as much as the Clun - any suggestions, would changing the start-up voltage make a difference?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Does it hum when the loco is stopped and deselected? If it only hums when the motor is instructed to spin, it might be a bit of excess friction somewhere, resisting the movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239507 Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 Flashbang said: Locomotive Address (LA) is either 3 or 10, it cant be both? Is the sound you are hearing amplifier hiss. What sound is there when Sound is turned Off (F1 set to Off)? Depending on your DCC system you may be able to turn down the amplifier volume a little, but you would need the Elite or other DCC system that allows CV alterations. The Select cannot do this!Hum is with me sound on or off. thanks for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compbck Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hi Guys - I purchased a copy of Clun Castle at the Alexander Palace Show for £180, and have only just unpacked it. I was amazed at the realistic sound emitted from locomotive, and was especially impressed with the braking sound when bringing it to halt. Not sure about the debate in respect of a "Humming" sound though. When stationary and the appropriate function key of the Hornby Elite Controller is pressed it emits that familiar steaming sound that you hear when a steam loco is resting. I was following another forum entry debating the version of lokSound decoder used by Hornby v3 or v4. I have just checked the documentation on mine and it states that it is a version 4 decoder, which others have stated is far superior than version 3. I am now keen to do my homework in order to start fitting sound to all of my DCC fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compbck Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Compbck said: Hi Guys - I purchased a copy of Clun Castle at the Alexander Palace Show for £180, and have only just unpacked it. I was amazed at the realistic sound emitted from locomotive, and was especially impressed with the braking sound when bringing it to halt. Not sure about the debate in respect of a "Humming" sound though. When stationary and the appropriate function key of the Hornby Elite Controller is pressed it emits that familiar steaming sound that you hear when a steam loco is resting. I was following another forum entry debating the version of lokSound decoder used by Hornby v3 or v4. I have just checked the documentation on mine and it states that it is a version 4 decoder, which others have stated is far superior than version 3. I am now keen to do my homework in order to start fitting sound to all of my DCC fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compbck Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Just received a new ESU LocSound V4 sound decoder from Howes Models Ltd that has been pre-programmed with a very realistic BR/GWR 4-6-0 Castle Class sound track, which I think has the edge on the sounds supplied in Clun Castle by Hornby. I have installed it into a Hornby "Taunton Castle" which comes complete with connections from the main body of the locomotive and plugs into the tender providing power to the decoder that is neatly located inside the tender. One sound that is not included in the Hornby Clun Castle is the sound of the piston hiss that runs in conjunction with the realistic chuff chuff. At £123 a decoder it is quite an expensive upgrade, but it certainly brings the locomotive to life, and any one who has experienced sound will probably not return to silent decoder running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 At £123 just for a decoder I doubt anybody converting to DCC will be able to afford sound. I have about 90 locos, multiply that by 123!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 About £11,070. Come on, you can afford that, failing which convert, say, one each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compbck Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 90 locomotives WOW! I have about 15 at the moment all focused on the Western Region during the 1950 - 1960 era, mostly steam with a sprinkling of diesel to cover the change period from steam to diesel. I understand the immense cost involved in converting a large collection of locomotives to DCC Sound, but I am currently selling off old DC / DCC (Non-Sound stock)and putting the proceeds towards the gradual upgrade process. Not sure what I would actually do with 90 locomotives, I am looking at building up my stock to have at least 1 locomotive that ran during my period in the BR Western Region. Although I do not expect to go much over 25 locomotives, I do have 3 Castles and a Grange that all have sound,and have more decoders on order for my two Panniers and 03 Diesel shunter. As I order new DCC ready locomotives (Dapol Western awaits) I will install sound in each, so the initial cost layout is being spread out over time. Having experienced running locomotives with sound, there is no way I would retreat back to silent DC or DCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 That's exactly as I have done it, Compbck. I have now got 37 sound locos, either bought ready to run or converted from basic DCC ready/fitted by specialists. Quite a few have cab, directional and/or lights, some with flickering fire boxes and/or smoke. It has cost me over the last 4 years or so, but I have raised hundreds, if not thousand of £s by selling replaced locos, which helps enormously. I wouldn't consider converting many of my other existing non-sound locos and still have plenty more to sell off. As you say, do it gradually. I'm afraid I wouldn't go back to black and white silent films either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Graskie said: About £11,070. Come on, you can afford that, failing which convert, say, one each year.dont think I'll still be able to play trains when I'm 165. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 But at least you might get the chance of just managing to play with a couple of converted or replaced locos while you're still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compbck Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I retired from the police in 1999 and now run my own IT Support business, and at 64 (still fit and healthy) I have just returned to the model railways after many years, and all its digital advancements. Just remembering the times my grandfather and I used to visit Laira Sheds in Plymouth in the 1950s has inspired me to at least re-create some of it in miniature before my time is up. There is so much to learn again - especially about perfecting sound installations. I spoke to Mike at Howes Models this morning who took the trouble to phone me to ensure that the sound decoders I had ordered were the correct ones. He also found time to explain just some of the options to be considered when installing decoders in the variety and sizes of locomotives. With guys like that on hand for support it really does make the hobby worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Graskie said: But at least you might get the chance of just managing to play with a couple of converted or replaced locos while you're still here. I don't want to replace my locos. I bought them because I wanted them and because I want to run them. What's the point of owning 90 something locos and only being able to run a couple. Complete waste of time and money. Most of them have been detailed by me, why would I want to get rid of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 That certainly made your shackles rise, didn't it, WTD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yes it did and its the sort of thing that will make me quit the forum for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Oh dear! Very sorry to have teased and upset you to that extent, WTD. I shall never mention the many advantages of the latest form of model railway control ever again........Please don't leave the forum because of an old fool like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 You forgot to mention the latest form of pages and pages of problems on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Quite right. I've had loads of them with D**, but then my life has been full of surmounting problems, so no difference there. You have to be prepared to suffer the slings and arrows of..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 On dear, not the emotion laden D** v D* argument again. Surely we agree to differ and move on by now? And I also think we need to remember that there are many hundreds of users out there who don't have problems, so are not posting and instead just getting on and playing trains. There will always be some bias towards the few with problems if all you see is the forum posts as your experience of the hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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