Bag Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Apologies if this is not the right place in the Forum for this. My 4 year old son has got into trains and rekindled my interest. I’m attempting to repair the x04 motor a Triang/Hornby Jinty and Hornby Pannier Tank that were mine and are probably 50 and 40 years old respectively at a guess. I can’t suss out how to get the bodies off. Anyone point this amateur in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 If I remember correctly remove the screw at the back, I think it holds the coupling in place, lift the cab and the slide the body slightly forward. The front is attached by a couble of lugs that slot into holes just above the buffer beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Cheers mate. Logging off work now to go home and give it a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Cheers mate. Logging off work now to go home and give it a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Depending on the age of the model the body is secured either by a small screw through the chimney (jinty), or by one in the body below the boiler on one side or the other (jinty and 57xx). The body should then lift away although, front first, there will also be a couple of lugs at the back of the bunker. Bag said: Apologies if this is not the right place in the Forum for this. My 4 year old son has got into trains and rekindled my interest. I’m attempting to repair the x04 motor a Triang/Hornby Jinty and Hornby Pannier Tank that were mine and are probably 50 and 40 years old respectively at a guess. I can’t suss out how to get the bodies off. Anyone point this amateur in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 That method applies to models produced after about 1984 (SSSP motors). If the chassis is an X04 motor then the screws were at the front and the lugs at the back except for the diesel shunter and saddle tank. walkingthedog said: If I remember correctly remove the screw at the back, I think it holds the coupling in place, lift the cab and the slide the body slightly forward. The front is attached by a couble of lugs that slot into holes just above the buffer beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I think I gave you a bit of duff gen. If it's an old model there isn't a screw but there is another lug at the back a quarter ish of the way up the bunker. You have to push the lug in with a small screwdriver or similar and then lift the cab. Take a look at the link below. By the way this is exactly the place to ask this sort of advise. Welcome to the Forum. https://www.hornby.com/search/?t=FileLibrary|Service+Sheets&q=R351&tag= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 WTD if the models are X04 (or even X03) and 40 - 50 years old then it is most likely they will be R052 (service sheet 84A) or R300 (service sheet 84B). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Oh well LC at least we've given him plenty of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Maybe a link to the Collector Guide might help to find the service sheet with some specifics? Try this one http://www.hornbyguide.com/search_item_results.asp and if any of these are your Juinty you can click on it and follow through to the right service sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Sorry, that should be Jinty. You can then also search for Pannier Tank in the search box and find that one. Just a note on this site too, if you are trying to search for a model number, you need a full stop after the R and before the number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81F Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 On the old Hornby Triang pannier GWR 8751 (and probably the red L90) the body screw is definitely on the left hand side (looking to the front of the chimney just behind the front splasher. Sorry but I do not know where it is on the jinty as I never had one that old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 It was the same. I had one but decided to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 Thanks everyone, sorted. Pannier Tank done, Jinty needs a connection re-soldering. But the main thing is, me and my lad had a great time. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 p.s. it was the same for the both, body screw on the left hand side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Body screw S.1072 is located just behind the front splasher on the left handside and screws into the smoke unit casting. Of course if the jinty is an early one then usually a long screw S.1009 is located down the chimney. The 57xx Pannier came in being as part of the Tri-ang-Hornby range in 1972 as R.51S and had one of the superb synchrosmoke generators fitted, after 1973 the smoke generators were dropped to cut costs under the then new DCM ownership. The jinties had a seuthe style smoke generation from 1961 to the end of 1963, this was found to melt the chimney of the locos, so a replacement was sought and synchrosmoke generators were fitted from around 1st January 1964 until late 1973. The rare london transport version of the 57xx pannier had the same body screw. The Tri-ang-Hornby 57xx pannier survives today as "Duck" in the Thomas range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Jinty catalouge numbers are R.52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The son of Triangman Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Jinty catalouge numbers are R.52, R52S, R.757, R.52RS, R.52AS, R.452, R.377S, R.588S Pannier tank catalouge numbers in true form R.51S, R.051, R.041, R.300, R. 048(LT L90 pannier),R.382 Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grampa Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I have read through this post and I am still stumped.I have a black 57XX running number 2747 - open cab, black body. There appears to be no body screw accessible through the funnel.I have removed the front and rear couplings, and there is no movement. I don't want to lever the body to the point of destruction. Is it really a question of brute force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 You will find a horizontal chassis lug protruding through the rear of the loco body just above the buffer beam if I remember correctly. If you remove the rear coupling, you can gently lever the bottom of the body outwards with a screwdriver blade to release the lug. Pull that end of the chassis down and rearwards to release the two hook-type connectors at the front of the chassis again just above the bufferbeam. When reassembling, locate the front hooks in the body first and then push the rear of the chassis in until the lug relocates. Do not try to release the front hook connectors first as they will almost certainly break. Service sheet 139 downloadable from lendonsmodelshop.co.uk gives an exploded view of the chassis. Your loco is R158. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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