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It has the speedo cable but no air braking pumps behind the RH smoke deflector.

thank you all for your replies. I see that I wasted my time again.

I have just been going through all my current information regarding the Britannia's and for one sickening moment I thought that I had made a major boo boo on a rename. I used Apollo as the donor loco for 70019 Lightning. On reading one book I realised that Lightning was one of the class not fitted with a speedo during it's life. Apollo was one of those retro fitted. Now was my Apollo fitted with a speedo or not? As I cannot have all my Brits out at once I thought that Hornby had done it with speedo. Luckily Hornby had portrayed it pre speedo so I was correct. Looking through all my books more closely to see which had battery boxes and extra tank on the footplate and which didn't, I found even more variations. 70004, which is my latest acquisition, had part fluted connecting rods and part flat rods. There were many other variations such as the additional front step under the smokebox. They were of varying design, with some having a thicker centre and others thinner. It looks as if the whole class varied in some minor detail from sister locos in very small ways. I have now sourced Westinghouse air brakes (early life) for 70043 and 70044 if I decide to have a go at modifying those from donor locos. I am undecided as to whether I should fit them (it, the pump) to the latest version of Britannia or to just leave it alone. There appears to be a photo of 70009 with a white roof, but as the photograph is black and white it may be a pale grey on the outer edges. The loco is in an ex works condition, so it is not just the light reflecting from it. On the subject of Earl Haig 70044, The back loco bogie has older bearing covers in the photos of it that I have and not the Timkin flt faced cover, painted yellow with red stripe. There is also a small cylinder under the cab. Apollo has had 3 different variations of cylinders, first without any cover on the top directly under the footplate, then with a rounded off cover and finally with the more common square version. Today Britannia has non!. The class had various lengths of Vacuum pipes at various stages, from those above the buffer to those below. One interesting thing that is not intentionally modelled is the ATC on some locos could be where the front NEM pocket is. It's also worth noting that the "Bash plate", to protect the AWS system was not fitted to locos without AWS. Hornby include this in the small parts pack but it may not be relevant to the modelled loco. Quite a variation in these locos is evident and this list is not the end of the variations, just a few.

All disposable motors. All useless models unless someone knows different, after the motor dies.

Loco15666 said: Thanks guys you have told me a lot I did not know. I might steer clear of them for now. The range of other locos is massive so will do me for many years to come. Cheers, Loco15666 I personally would not buy anymore purely because all the new stuff is of a better detail. I will not be parting with any though at present.

I have never had any trouble with them except the tyres become loose in time. Some have experienced gears failing on the shaft but so far I have been OK.

Stan you need to check out the downloads section on here and go to service sheets 303b here is listed all parts inc an exploded diagram of the unit.X 9443 and X9674 are most likely the parts. Try Abbigails or East Kent models for parts. Also Peters spares on ebay as he has bought loads of stock from Modelspares.