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  1. I've worked on some of those ingot bogies. At Rotherham they came in 2 sizes, x4 and x8 ingot moulds (smaller moulds than those). The x4 were literally 4 wheel bogies, no suspension, a big steel "buffer" at each end and a very low hook. The x8 were just like two little ones stuck together but with pivoting bogies at each end. Steel Peech and Tozer had some big Hunslet 0-6-0 made with extra ballast to move them, originally at Templeborough, later at Aldwarke. There is a kit for the Hunslets. I know two had their ingot bogie buffers removed, were cleaned, polished, painted maroon and sent to British Leyland in the late 80's/early 90's when I worked there as I did the replacement handrails on one. Torpedo wagons were used at the former Tinsley Park steelworks. There was a very bad, fatal accident with one where a cold torpedo was shunted into the melting shop by mistake (they were normally preheated) and teemed into. It had been outside in the rain awaiting repair and had a load of water in it. Upon the molten steel hitting the water it immediately evaporated and the torpedo exploded. I believe it killed the crane driver, shunter and loco driver. The bottom one looks more like a slag ladle than a steel ladle to me. These were used at Templeborough too to take steel slag from the melting shop, across the road at Ickles to the slag works adjacent to Brinsworth Strip Mills where it was turned into tarmac for roads. I think the slag works is still there but it's not rail connected any more.
  2. Some great responses here. I used to live near the tip at Thrybergh and worked as a wagon repairer at the other side of the line to Ickles so know the route well. The tip at Thrybergh was on the line to SIlverwood Colliery so would make an interesting layout with passing coal trains. The ILR book on Blackburn Meadows is out of stock/out of print but Sheffield Library have one. I shall be going post lockdown. I've also booked a trip to Locomotion with the beloved when it reopens with a camera and a tape measure in my pocket. :) The wagon bodies would, like many of these, be balanced upright when empty but when filled would be top heavy so wouldn't take a lot of tipping. As pointed out, they'd be chained into the upright position to traverse the mainline. Research I've managed to do in lockdown suggests these would be moved with a Class 25 or a Class 37 twice a day. There is a kit for these which I will try once they're available again but my kit building skill may not be up to it. I do think they'd be a good prototype for an RTR model though as they wouldn't be out of place on a colliery or coking plant layout. The sewage wagons are subtly different but not so much. They are also, technically not Hudsons as they were built by Charles Roberts, but you wouldn't know unless you were close enough to read the makers plate, and who would want to stand that close to them given what they carried? :)
  3. As small industrial locos seem popular, it would be nice to see something different in terms of wagons. /media/tinymce_upload/ad1205f242bb6848bf1a271ff76ded9d.jpg This particular one was used for treated sewage but similar or identical wagons were used by many companies for spoil movements. /media/tinymce_upload/fe2a8b0e27597579687d3f4fd4d74dca.jpg/media/tinymce_upload/9d48f5b5f05902ba597216b277fb1927.jpg A prototype exists at Locomotion at Shildon. With a bit of careful design, a model could be made to function and would add "play value" to starter sets but regardless, I'd buy 20 of these tomorrow. A handy wagon for the yard shunter to push around.
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