Thanks every one. Have used the car light bulb test and no power there is no noise at the motor so its a programming problem. Will start again from scratch, all the wires are connected and using a programming track and trying to follow the help everyone has given me and the instruction book and updated instructions from Hornby. Think as we get older this digital stuff is more difficult, my first train was wind up, it marvellous to have a train that sounds like a train and whistles as well, even a Vent Van that sends out the sounds of many things, fantastic. Will keep trying Regards Lynrob