RalphC Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Hi, Aboslute newbie here, first post, please be kind. I am struggling to put together four+ 1966 or 1967 Le Mans cars in different colours etc. I can only find a couple that are DPR. When looking at older cars, is there a C-number that marks the point before which it can only be analogue or was there a point where they were releasing both. More of a rant but I am amazed how hard it is to try and create a racing set of cars that might actually have been on the same track at once in real life. TIARalph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcote Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Hi Ralph - welcome to the forum! Before Scalextric produced Digital Plug Ready cars, there were a small number of cars that were chipped in the factory. Almost all the other cars produced - including all the classic Le Mans models - could be converted to digital using the C7005 (F1) or C7006 (saloon) 'retro-fit' chips. There were no classic Le Mans cars that I know of that were factory chipped. Nowadays, the C7005 chip is the only Scalextric 'retro fit' chip available and it is a fairly straight-forward job to convert any Scalextric car - requiring basic soldering skills. Looking through the old catalogues, there are a lot of Scalextric models of cars that raced at Le Mans in 1966 and 1967. Starting with the most recent... C4031 Ford GT MkIV #4 Hulme/Ruby 1967 (DPR)C3951 Ford GT MkIV #3 Andretti/Bianchi 1967 (DPR)C3893A Ford GT MkIV #1 Gurney/Foyt 1967 (DPR) part of twin pack with 2017 Ford GT GTEC3630 Ford GT40 Scuderia Filipinetti #14 1966 (DPR)C3533 Ford GT40 Rindt/Ireland #12 1966 (DPR)C3315 Ford GT40 Ligier/Grossman #15 (non-DPR)C3097 Ford GT MkII Andretti/Bianchi #6 1966 (non-DPR)C3028 Ferrari 412P Attwood/Courage #23 1967 (non-DPR)C3026 Ford GT MkII Donohue/Hawkins #4 1966 (non-DPR)C2918 Ferrari 412P Rodriguez/Barghetti #25 1967 (non-DPR)C2917 Ford GT MkII Hill/Muir #7 1966 (non-DPR)C2683A Ford GT MkII Whitmore/Gardner #8 1966 (non-DPR)C2642 Ferrari 330 P4 Mairesse/Beurlys #24 1967 (non-DPR)C2641 Ferrari 330 P4 Scarfiotti/Parkes #21 1967 (non-DPR)C2578A Ford GT40 Revson/Scott #59 1966 (non-DPR)C2529A Le Mans 1966 1-2-3 weathered triple pack (non-DPR)C2509 Ford GT MkII Gurney/Grant #3 1966 (non-DPR)C2465A Ford GT MkII Bucknum/Hutcherson #5 1966 (non-DPR)C2464A Ford GT MkII Miles/Hulme #1 1966 (non-DPR)C2463A Ford GT MkII Amon/McLaren #2 1966 (non-DPR) I'm pretty sure that is all the 1966 and 67 Le Mans models that Scalextric have produced in recent years. There are a few gaps that could be filled - the Chaparral 2F that Scalextric produced did not appear as either of the two 1967 Le Mans cars - the 2F was DPR. A DIY re-livery would be possible. The yellow #2 McLaren/Donohue MkIV from 1967 has not been released yet (although the yellow Sebring winner has). The 1967 MkIIBs are a different shape to the 1966 cars and I suspect Ford would want new tooling to be produced for an accurate model. Looking through the entry lists, there are a couple more GT40 (MkI) cars from 66 and 67. The Gulf cars from 1968 and 1969 are all available as DPR models. Finally, there are a couple more Ferrari 330 P4 and 412Ps that could be done - the #19 factory car and #22 Filipinetti car from 1967. I hope that's useful to plan your grid. It was fun looking back through the fabulous classic Le Mans models Scalextric have produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphC Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Hi Ralph - welcome to the forum! Before Scalextric produced Digital Plug Ready cars, there were a small number of cars that were chipped in the factory. Almost all the other cars produced - including all the classic Le Mans models - could be converted to digital using the C7005 (F1) or C7006 (saloon) 'retro-fit' chips. There were no classic Le Mans cars that I know of that were factory chipped. Nowadays, the C7005 chip is the only Scalextric 'retro fit' chip available and it is a fairly straight-forward job to convert any Scalextric car - requiring basic soldering skills. Looking through the old catalogues, there are a lot of Scalextric models of cars that raced at Le Mans in 1966 and 1967. Starting with the most recent... C4031 Ford GT MkIV #4 Hulme/Ruby 1967 (DPR)C3951 Ford GT MkIV #3 Andretti/Bianchi 1967 (DPR)C3893A Ford GT MkIV #1 Gurney/Foyt 1967 (DPR) part of twin pack with 2017 Ford GT GTEC3630 Ford GT40 Scuderia Filipinetti #14 1966 (DPR)C3533 Ford GT40 Rindt/Ireland #12 1966 (DPR)C3315 Ford GT40 Ligier/Grossman #15 (non-DPR)C3097 Ford GT MkII Andretti/Bianchi #6 1966 (non-DPR)C3028 Ferrari 412P Attwood/Courage #23 1967 (non-DPR)C3026 Ford GT MkII Donohue/Hawkins #4 1966 (non-DPR)C2918 Ferrari 412P Rodriguez/Barghetti #25 1967 (non-DPR)C2917 Ford GT MkII Hill/Muir #7 1966 (non-DPR)C2683A Ford GT MkII Whitmore/Gardner #8 1966 (non-DPR)C2642 Ferrari 330 P4 Mairesse/Beurlys #24 1967 (non-DPR)C2641 Ferrari 330 P4 Scarfiotti/Parkes #21 1967 (non-DPR)C2578A Ford GT40 Revson/Scott #59 1966 (non-DPR)C2529A Le Mans 1966 1-2-3 weathered triple pack (non-DPR)C2509 Ford GT MkII Gurney/Grant #3 1966 (non-DPR)C2465A Ford GT MkII Bucknum/Hutcherson #5 1966 (non-DPR)C2464A Ford GT MkII Miles/Hulme #1 1966 (non-DPR)C2463A Ford GT MkII Amon/McLaren #2 1966 (non-DPR) I'm pretty sure that is all the 1966 and 67 Le Mans models that Scalextric have produced in recent years. There are a few gaps that could be filled - the Chaparral 2F that Scalextric produced did not appear as either of the two 1967 Le Mans cars - the 2F was DPR. A DIY re-livery would be possible. The yellow #2 McLaren/Donohue MkIV from 1967 has not been released yet (although the yellow Sebring winner has). The 1967 MkIIBs are a different shape to the 1966 cars and I suspect Ford would want new tooling to be produced for an accurate model. Looking through the entry lists, there are a couple more GT40 (MkI) cars from 66 and 67. The Gulf cars from 1968 and 1969 are all available as DPR models. Finally, there are a couple more Ferrari 330 P4 and 412Ps that could be done - the #19 factory car and #22 Filipinetti car from 1967. I hope that's useful to plan your grid. It was fun looking back through the fabulous classic Le Mans models Scalextric have produced.Hi Andy, Wow, fantastic answer and thank you. Some research for me to do now. Thanks again.Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P. Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Woodcote seems to have encyclopedic knowledge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphC Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 As a newbie, I am only allowed two posts per 24 hours so thanks in anticipation. Based on the above and lots more research, I have amended my idea, based on availability and wanting some different cars i.e. not all GT40s. I am going down the Le Mans Classic Grid 5 (1966-71) route. At the moment, (the very small) grid may comprise: C3859 - yellow Mk4; C3946 red 412P; possibly a Gulf GT40. I would like to include the Porsche 917 #22 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scalextric-Porsche-917-Gulf-22-Altaya-/274213447338 My question here please, is: as a model that was given away in magazines, will it compete fairly with the above, once it has been converted? There is no point having a 1971 Porsche lagging the older cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcote Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Hi Ralph - that is an old mould and will look and perform very differently to the modern Scalextric cars. My rule of thumb is to race cars manufactured in the past 20 years together. Older cars are fun (and can be chipped), but they are different beasts, both to the eye and on the track. If you are 100% set on some 1970-1 Le Mans cars, I would suggesting looking at the Spanish 'Fly' classics (also sold under the Slotwings and FlySlot brand names). The performance and finish will be in the same ball park as the Scalextric cars - the price a bit more. The C7005 retro-fit chip converts them to digital. Look for Porsche 917k & 917 LH, Ferrari 512S & Coda Lunga, Lola T70 MkIIIB and Porsche 908 Flunder LH. There are some 60s cars too - Ferrari 250 GTO & 250 LM, Ford GT40 & GT MkII. If you are a 60s-70s Le Mans fanatic, the Fly cars are essential considerations. Together with the Scalextric Ford GT40s, they are what rekindled my slot car passion back 15-20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphC Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Hi Ralph - that is an old mould and will look and perform very differently to the modern Scalextric cars. My rule of thumb is to race cars manufactured in the past 20 years together. Older cars are fun (and can be chipped), but they are different beasts, both to the eye and on the track. If you are 100% set on some 1970-1 Le Mans cars, I would suggesting looking at the Spanish 'Fly' classics (also sold under the Slotwings and FlySlot brand names). The performance and finish will be in the same ball park as the Scalextric cars - the price a bit more. The C7005 retro-fit chip converts them to digital. Look for Porsche 917k & 917 LH, Ferrari 512S & Coda Lunga, Lola T70 MkIIIB and Porsche 908 Flunder LH. There are some 60s cars too - Ferrari 250 GTO & 250 LM, Ford GT40 & GT MkII. If you are a 60s-70s Le Mans fanatic, the Fly cars are essential considerations. Together with the Scalextric Ford GT40s, they are what rekindled my slot car passion back 15-20 years ago.Thanks woodcote and sorry for calling you Andy, I was confused by the footer. I have done lots of research on the Fly Le Mans models, per your recommendation and can see an extra two controllers, an extra power supply and a six car Le Mans Classic line-up! Thanks, awesome. As the old joke goes: I had a nightmare last night. I had died and the wife sold my Scalextric gear for what I told her I paid for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcote Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Hi Ralph - I am an Andy P too (very confusing)...The question is, what were the six Le Mans cars that you'd bought in your dream? I realise I have well and truly blown your budget, so I definitely won't mention the fabulous (and very good value) retro-Le Mans buildings in the GP Miniatures range. They come as printed & laminated foamboard kits... but you really don't need to look at them here: https://www.pendleslotracing.co.uk/brand/gp-miniatures.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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