Old Bob Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Help !I use a Gaugemaster Prodigjy Express Using it run my sound Hornby locos no problemHave just purchased a Bachmann Europhoenix Diesel Loco13sound funtions .Up to No 12 OK -NO13 is for cab light but on activating the sound failsI have to readdres to get the sound back Bachmann say it must be the controler Gaugemaster say it must be the Loco ! Help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Pound to a penny it ends up being the GM PX at fault. Is the controller firmware upto date if it can even be updated that is.We would need to know the loco sound decoder type and model as some can be clones of others with a known history.So many variables.Third party folk usually blame the Hornby kit first.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bob Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 RAF 96Thanks for your comments The controller is a few years old I will talk to Gaugmaster .and maybe replace it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Take a good look at the Bachmann loco as you have said the GM PX controls your Hornby locos OK, making one think the controller is OK. Can you reset both the controller and loco and see if the problem reoccurs. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 HiThe older Prodigy Express is able to set Functions F0 to F15 (16 functions) using the Shift key to access F10 to F15. So you need to press Shift key then key in 1 and 0 to 1 and 5 to access F10 to F15. The newer PE2 access F0 to F28Failure to push the Shift key and trying to access F10 to F15 results in F1 function being activated or deactivated. I suspect F1 is Sound On/Off. Hence this is why the sound turn Off. Ensure each time you want to action F10 to F15 the Shift key is pressed - every time!From the PE manual,,,, To control accessory functions F1 - F9, press 1 - 9. To control F10 – F15, press SHIFT, then input the two digit function number. Only functions up to F12 will show in the display, F13 to F15 will be activated but will not be displayed on the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bob Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 I have pressd 'shift key' pressed 13 ===no sound (yes function 1 is sound )I have set the loco to defualt mode IE 08 Maybe the shift button is worn out ?Will have another go tomorrow Thanks for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bob Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just tried again Pressed Shift 12 (guards whistle ) fine Engine sound great Directional lights OKPresse the dreaded F13 cab light on Sound kaput Then back to default (08) sound etc back The decoder is according to the info sheet LokSound Select Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 HiI would suggest trying using the number keys rather than any other. i.e. Press Shift then followed by key 3 (giving F13) to see if that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Sorry that didnt quite come over as I meant it... Press Shift then 1 and 3 keys to give F13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashbang Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I'm beginning to believe the manual for the Gaugemaster Prodigy Express is wrong? I'm now wondering if there is a Shift button on the PE?? Please check. Should be bottom right button.I have the Prodigy Advanced and that certainly does have the Shift button. But looking at the Gaugemaster image I cant see one on the PE ! Apologises if I've miss lead you by quoting from the GM manual text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Following up to my reply based on FBs comments when I siad it would be the GMPX at fault I didn’t mean to imply broken but more like awry to operate. As FB says the button press sequence is likely key to the problem. There has been other forums discussion about LokPilot problems but nothing specific I can remember about the LokSelect. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bob Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Yes ,I have a shift button on the cab Have just tried again -Shift-!-3 then lights ok but sound goes off Thanks for your replies I have 2 more Bachmann Locos giving the same problem (brand new) One is going back to them to look at .Now I will contact Gaugemaster ,see what they say . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bob Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Have spoken to Gaugemaster (very helpful) Cannot update firmware on this model .Said try shift 3 ,no luck.Have a Hornby Duke of Glouster TTS sound Put on sound. then Shift 13 for the blower =no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 That is moving the blame more firmly across to the Euro-Loco if the GM-PX works a TTS high range function OK using the expected key shifts.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bob Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Exactly ,have sent one loco back with the same problem Will see what they say ! ( I can guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iliketransport Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Sorry I can't help. I don't have a clue. Only just started with DCC and with super basic stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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