cme101 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 hi,i am a 13 yearold boy who has just got a track and two trains secondhand. when they arived one was fine but the other has no motor! could someone tell me if i can reinstall a motor in it?please tell me if photos are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRmike Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 It it depends on the model. If it is loco drive and early (1960s -1980s) loco then it could be possible if you can get an XO4 motor but they are becoming harder to find. Tender drive and later locos then the answer is no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hi and welcome A photo would help or reference numbers for the locomotives. Some, such as the HST have a dummy power car so shouldn't have a motor. If it is a loco that has had the motor removed, then other parts such as pick ups may be required to restore it to running order. It can be done though, but will depend on the model and availability of the required parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Photos would help to identify the model. As others have said, not all locomotives are supposed to have a motor in them. So understanding which loco it is, will help a lot..Review TIP8 in my 'Forum TIPS page' with regard how to post images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Welcome to the forum. As indicated above, the older locomotives can generally be worked on more easily, and spares can be located, or replacements which fit. Newer ones DO have spares available, but you need to have patience, confirm the model, motor, gearing, and then you may probably find a replacement - there are plenty of replacement motors available on Ebay and from well-known vendors for modern locomotives. If you can get a couple of photos up, then probably somebody on here will be able to point you in the right direction. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingthedog Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 It could be a tender drive loco in which case the loco won't have a motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cme101 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 hi,just checked and the body of the train and it has been painted over i will post pictures as soon as possible.thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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2e0dtoeric Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 That has been bodged together from at least two other models. Green bogie and centre driver wheels, the others black, and appear to be larger diameter, skew gear to the centre driver is damaged.And yes, there should be a motor in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 What you have there is a very old R50 Princess Elizabeth made by Triang in the 1950s. It was usually powered by an X04 motor which slots into cut-outs in the frames near the gear wheel, and will be screwed into the hole at the back end with a special screw (6BA if I remenber correctly) . If the motoir is correctly installed a worm wheel attached to it engages with the gear wheel. These motors are available second hand from various sources. It also looks as though the pick-ups are missing together with the wiring harness which connects the carbon brushes o the motor. The pick-up consists of a paxolin plate with a cut out to clear the gear wheel which is screwed under the chassis with two screws. Rivetted to it is two phosphor bronze strips which press on the back of the insulated driving wheels, and soldered to that is a wire which comes up through the chassis and is soldered to a assembly of interference supressors and another wire which connects to the insulated side of the brush assembly. It also looks as though someone has assembled the valve gear upside down. The tender coupling is missing, it should be attached to the bogie under the cab. You need to be aware that the wheels of these locomotives have very coarse flanges which are not really compatible with modern OO gauge track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rana Temporia Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 The tender coupling is there but it is the very early version that is not connected to the rear pony truck. As Sarah says, the pick up, motor and screw are missing.and someone has painted some of the wheels green. If you have the spares it's worth fixing but you can pick a fully working but damaged body version of this loco up on an online auction site for £5 to £7. A new motor and pick up plate is going to cost you £10 plus. In addition the body has been painted over. It sounds daft but it would probably be cheaper to buy a replacement for this one Or buy one with a damaged body and just put yours on it. You will have some spares then as the cylinder block often gets damages on these locos. If you had the parts it would be up and running in less than 10 mins, assuming the wheels are the right way round with all the insulated ones on the same side and the paint isn't on the flanges which would prevent electrical contact with the rails. I have several of these locos and they do work on most modern track, they do struggle with some makes of points though. There si a later version of this loco with better wheels but the body fittings are slightly different. There is a hole above the buffer beam to take a screw. Yours should have a screw down the chimney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Hi Rana... It was LC&DR, not me.... 😉 I can add that the screws for the motor retaining function, and for attaching the pick up plate, and also the tag on the suppression capacitor to the front weight block (this screw is still in place.) are all the same, 8BA, that's an imperial standard, not Metric. The loco is from 1959, so was probably originally Princess Victoria, number 46205. The fixing screw is indeed down the chimney...the later front footplates screw fixing came in in 1961, with the cast chassis block, and suitable for fitting the Seuthe Type smoke unit. The front coupling and bogie is from 1959, the body, with a blank nameplate, which was printed with the name, dates from 1958 onwards... The loco to tender coupling has been modified...it's not correct. It looks like it has been bent and re attached to the rear of the pony truck. As has been said, quite easy to re assemble, but the parts required would almost certainly cost more than a complete, working, loco and tender. But then there is the satisfaction obtained from the restoration of an old model... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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