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Service sheets shewing the Ringfield motor version with screw fitted brush retainers... Example. GWR 2800 Class 2-8-0 loco. Margate made. 1992. China made. 2000.

@ Going Spare... Peter's Spares themselves say that they are not the same thread...wink "Are you trying to convert Hornby ringfield tender drive units to DCC? If you are and you come across the latter models where the screw connects all the way into the block look no further we have found some nylon screws to replace the metal Hornby one. (Please note they can be screwed into the block & taken out when needed but please take care not to over tighten & snap the screw, they are not the same thread they are just right to force in & nip up tight to fix the carbon brush holder, they will flex as they are nylon when screwing them in) we have used these on loads of Hornby Conversions and can now offer them for sale." https://www.petersspares.com/peters-spares-ps13-nylon-screws-for-hornby-ringfield-dcc-conversions-pack-of-10.ir

The Service Sheet for the original type of motor bogie, with pick ups on the trailing bogie. Double check that the position of the brass contact on the top of the motor bogie is making contact with the correct side of the brass pick up "spider" assembly. If moving a magnet, be careful to attach a metal "keeper" to help to prevent loss of magnetism. Better to not move a magnet if possible... The same motor bogie, but without pick ups on the trailing bogie...

@81F The "Jinty" conversion used an old Crownline conversion kit. It was designed for the slightly older Hornby Jinty model, but with minor modifications, I used it in a more recent DCC Fitted chassis model. 🐉🙋🏼‍♀️

@RT. Thanks, I was wondering whether it was the original chassis. Hattons, then in Liverpool, offered the bodies fitted with either the Tri-ang or Hornby Dublo chassis. The Tri-ang chassis version can have two small holes drilled in the front buffer beam to take the two lugs on the chassis, and most seem to have the adaptor used in the R.152 Diesel Shunters, to allow for a body fixing screw through the bunker. 🐉🙋🏼‍♀️

@ Brew Man. Thanks. blush @ moreairamike. Looking good. blush

Nice.blush The GWR one has the factory applied lettering and numbers. Is it on a Hornby Dublo (or Wrenn) R1 chassis?

It is much easier to build a skew girder bridge, than a skew arch bridge...wink

Hornby 2721 open cab Pannier Tank. Original version. A later version. Slightly modified. Hornby 2721 modified to a closed cab version, using parts from a Hornby "Jinty" that was converted to open cab... GWR locomotive book illustration of a closed cab 2700 class loco GWR locomotive book illustration of a 5700 loco, with the later 8750 style cab. As modelled by Hornby. A repainted example. And Bachmann. Lined black, as used on Paddington station pilot locos. Hornby LT version, with the Bachmann model. Bachmann earlier style cab 5700. Bachmann 6400 class Pannier Tank Loco.

There are a number of people who have made 3D printed adaptors to convert a number of different coupling mountings to a NEM compatible pocket. They tend to be found on eBay. As we are planning to convert most of the rolling stock for Ffrwd Locks to NEM pockets, we are always on the lookout for such adaptors. Having NEM pockets fitted allows a lot of different types of coupling to be fitted. We have also converted Hornby 0-6-0 "Jinty" type chassis to NEM pockets, by glueing a pocket into place, after trimming the chassis plate to get the pocket at the correct height, etc., and drilling a new hole for the chassis bottom fixing plate screw through the pocket. Any NEM coupling to be fitted to these chassis needs to be fitted, then a drill bit run through the hole to allow the screw to pass! It works ok for us!

Princess MK2 sheet from Lendons

The first Tri-ang Railways "Service Sheet" was in fact a large format wall chart, that included the Princess and the Jinty chassis and Mk 1, 2, and 3 motors. These charts were later frequently cut up into separate subjects, to fit into the red Servicing Handbook ring binders later supplied to Service Dealers by Tri-ang Railways. Copies of the Princess MK1 and 2 parts are already available on Lendons of Cardiff's website. (They have spelt Elizabeth as Elizebeth in the Hornby section, and as Elisabeth in the Tri-ang section.) https://www.lendonsmodelshop.co.uk/?button=button2&servicesheets=none The full Princess chassis and motor parts from the original wall chart (MK1 and MK2 parts, as cut to fit the ring binders) are available on the Hornby Railways Collectors Guide website. A very good source of information. Here... MK1 http://www.hornbyguide.com/service_sheet_details.asp?sheetid=333 MK2 http://www.hornbyguide.com/service_sheet_details.asp?sheetid=334

The "Improved Engine Green", or IEG, livery (18xx) pre dates the Southern Railway (from 1923) by a long time. The LB&SCR used IEG under the engineer William Stroudley. The engineer Marsh changed the livery to a brown, Umber, colour. The SR came even later. So, unless it's a "preserved" locomotive and coaches, the combination is very likely. If the loco is indeed "Brighton", and not actually "Brighton Works" that is... Terriers in IEG, but named "Brighton Works", were used as works shunters at Brighton Works into British Railways days.

Service sheets for the earlier Jinty and X.04 motor Service sheet shewing earlier coach bogies, and parts. MK2 couplings and open axle boxes. Earlier, and later service sheets for the DMU and Blue Pullman motor bogie.

The Jinty sounds like the body is made from Cellulose Acetate, and was therefore made before around 1956. If it is lined, then it is a later version, possibly from 1956. Most CA plastic versions are plain unlined black, with the early BR crest. It should have the MK2 (open loop) type couplings. It sounds like the coaches are also of an earlier design. Possibly the shorter 9 inch coaches? Possibly the axle boxes are "open" and the plain ended axles can be seen? Do they have the MK2 type couplings? The MK3 (closed loop) couplings were introduced on the OO/HO ranges in 1959. The Blue Pullman should have the MK3 couplings, so you could compare these with the Jinty and coach couplings. All are fixable, with the parts. As mentioned above, the BP motor bogie is the same as that used in the DMU, so a later issue DMU (these had an illuminated headcode box, A7, and finer wheels suitable for code 100 track.) could be used as a direct replacement.

The Hornby (Not Scaledale) clip together platforms date back to the 1962 release of Super 4 track. The cream, later grey, platform walls made then, and until they were replaced by the current fencing, were only available as a straight length, the same length as the R.460 straight platform section. The curved platform sections were discontinued for a time, and were not being made when the new fencing was introduced, along with the third series of station buildings. This fencing was made in four types. Straight, the same length as the R.460. Curved Ramp Left hand. Curved Ramp Right hand. Both to fit the Platform Ramp R.464, with curved sides. A section to fit the new R.507 station access steps section. Unfortunately, when the curved platform sections were reintroduced, no fencing section was made to fit them. It could be possible to modify the straight sections by cutting sections out of the base, to allow the fence to be curved to fit. Not too easy though.

Hornby Service Sheet HSS 305C from 2008.

A long time ago now...but still in this galaxy! 😀 There was also the Ever Ready, yes, the battery people, Underground train set. Designed to run off batteries! It was, I seem to recall, 3-rail, so closer to the prototype than the modern EFE Rail 2-rail trains! 😉🙂 Ever Ready Underground train set advert 1950's. | Ever Ready… | Flickr London Underground train set (Ever Ready T.G.10) - The Brighton Toy and Model Index (brightontoymuseum.co.uk) Ever Ready Underground trainset box lid artwork. | Ever Read… | Flickr 🐉🤷🏼‍♀️

Basically, Tri-ang Railways, Tri-ang Hornby and Hornby Railways used a passenger coach bogie design based upon the BR standard BR 1 bogie, as used on BR MK1 coaching stock. From 1962, Tri-ang Railways made a range of "scale length" BR MK1 coaches, starting with the Sleeping Car. This range uses a one piece moulding for the ends, and the underframe, trussing, battery boxes, etc. Except for the CKD kits, which had nut and bolt bogie fixings, the bogies were attached with eyelets (rivets). All of the various BR MK1 coaches in this range use the same underframe and bogies. Apart from the sleeping car, and the buffet car, the rest use the same roof as the CK, Composite coach. Because the real BK full brakes were shorter than the other BR MK1 passenger stock, the Tri-ang Railways model (also some other makes, e.g. Lima) is too long. The side details having been stretched to fit the standard underframe. When Tri-ang Railways released the Lord Of The Isles GWR Single, they tooled up clerestory roof coaches to go with the locomotive, based on a GWR design. These came out around the same time as the new Scale length BR MK1 coaches, so the BR parts were not available at the time. Later, when Tri-ang needed some period style coaches to go with the Caledonian Single Locomotive, No. 123, they instead of tooling dedicated coaches they tooled up some sides based on CR coaches, and used the standard underframe, bogies, and Composite roof. The LMS coach is a later version of the CR coaches, which were also available in GWR, and SR, liveries. The LNER coaches were so different from the CR coaches, that Tri-ang Hornby tooled up sides for a composite and a brake 3rd coach based on the Thompson design. These too used the standard underframe, bogies, and composite roof. When the new Pullman coaches were introduced, starting with "Lucille" in the 1970s, bogies based on the Pullman car design, which was basically a Gresley design, were used. These were then available for use on later LNER coaches. At some point, Hornby changed the bogie fixing from the eyelets (rivets) to a clip on system. This cuts down on the assembly time, etc... More recently, Hornby introduced some bogies based on pre nationalisation designs, to replace the BR bogies on some other, e.g. the later 1980s GWR, coaches.

Service Sheet HSS 429 Royal Scot Class from 2017. Motor area...

I have found that the rear lug is the one to be freed first. That is the larger lug. On re assembly insert the front lug first, then push down until the rear lug clips into place. Are you sure that R399 is correct? Or should it be R398?

Service sheet for R.751 EE Type 3 Co-Co Locomotive. (Class 37)

The black locomotive is the R.52 "Jinty" ex LMS 3f tank loco. It is missing the brass safety valves, which would have helped to date it. It is post 1959, as it has the MK3 (Closed Loop) couplings. It appears to have solid wheels, not "see through" spokes. That would place the manufacture date as around 1959-1961/2 by my reckoning. If the chassis is a one piece cast metal block, then the loco is post 1961. A steel plate chassis, with front and rear cast metal weight blocks would be 1959-1960.

This link is probably the items mentioned above...blush https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-HO-Scale-Train-1-87-Arm-Pantograph-Bow-Electric-Traction-Antenna-Part-/353468573974 How does one make a clickable link these days? thinking_face RDS Moderator Note The way I do it, is to paste the link into MS Word and after pressing enter it becomes a clickable link, then paste it into your post. (Not as easy as it used to be but it works) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-HO-Scale-Train-1-87-Arm-Pantograph-Bow-Electric-Traction-Antenna-Part-/353468573974

In later years, Wrenn used plastic axle hangers, that took pin point axles. I have a feeling that the slots in the chassis were also changed to accommodate these new hangers? http://www.moorwrenn.co.uk/wrenn-parts-spares-new/index This means that there are two types of Wrenn wheel sets with the plated metal tyres, plain and pin point axles... I have heard of others fitting brass bearings into the original style metal hangers...