Glosgas Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Can someone help please?I recently took delivery of a new Princess Class 'Queen Maud' and I'm a bit confused where some of the bits in the accessory bag fit. I know about the bits in the box with a tick, but where do the others go? The two gold coloured parts look as though they fit in the same place; one a folded version of the other./media/tinymce_upload/78b3d88a4c3128398f372b70f8a2fd93.JPGThanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 The multi exit (1 to 3 into one are cylinder drain pipes (cannot use the proper name as it would infringe rules) They fit under the front steam cylinder where the valve gear slides back and to. The Black square looks like the "Bash plate" that fits under the central front buffer beam. If fitted you cannot use the front coupling. The other items are not visible enough in the photo. I think they are an alternative cylinder drain pipe to allow use on tighter curves. See the photos and expand.https://www.hornby.com/uk-en/br-princess-royal-class-4-6-2-46211-queen-maud-era-5.htmlI won a Queen Maud a few years back from the Hornby Comp on here.The Bash plate was fitted to some but not all locos to avoid damage to instrumentation just behind the front buffer that gave signal info to the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I real life Queen Maud did have a bash plate fitted. I found a photo but the site concerned flicks to other photos and obliterates the view.A better photo showing a dirty bash plate.It also looks like the thinner drains are more suitable for this model looking at the photo. Put the 1-3-1 in your spares box./media/tinymce_upload/350ebe97afbd0ad5c205f7bf98239628.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 The thinner drains are the ones for this loco as you will see in the photo when approved. Keep the 1-3-1 set in your bits and pieces box. The phot shows a dirty bash plate very well under the front buffer beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissaf Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 cock as in 'drain cock' has now been removed from the profanity filter.'Cock of the North' was also affected. Thus this word was removed from the filter database then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosgas Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 Thanks to you all.I'd kind of worked out that the gold bits,I know now as cylinder drain pipes, fitted under the steam cylinders; I just could't see why there were two sets. I had no idea about the 'bash plate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Now as Chrisaff has pointed out the term "drain cocks" will not be in profanity filters that is the actual term of those small gold coloured pipes. Trains and locos have some very strange terms at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 cock as in 'drain cock' has now been removed from the profanity filter.'Cock of the North' was also affected. Thus this word was removed from the filter database then.Should we then refer to it as "Hen of the North" or "Rooster of the North" ? This is all getting a bit silly. (Or maybe the Poutry Protection and Equalisation Governance" will then complain ? - but politely and no short Anglo-Saxon words). I must not buy an additional Lima Crab ! 😛 🤐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Cock o' the North is permitted ... it is / was 2001's name after all and a very popular locomotive. Application in the manner of James May probably isn't! Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Of course, to be pedantic, the pipes are the drains from the cylinder drain cocks at either end of the cylinders... 😉 These drain cocks are taps, operated from the cab. They are there to release any water that has condensed in the cylinder whilst the loco is stationary. They are opened before setting off, and let the incoming steam purge the cylinder of water. This is the big "whooosh" of steam in front of a loco as it starts to move... Once the loco is moving, they are closed. (some film and tv shots keep them open for effect...e.g. the Flockton Flyer! ) Steam can be compressed in the cylinder far more than water can...trapped water can blow the head off the cylinder! 😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VESPA Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Not quite correct as the cylinder drain cocks are actually in the cylinders operated from the cab. Most locomotives have 3 per cylinder. Reference page 89 Handbook for Railway Steam Locomotive Enginemen.https://archive.org/details/HandbookForRailwaySteamLocomotiveEnginemen/page/n43/mode/2up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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