Potrail2378 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Hi, I have two Intercity 125s sets - two power cars and two dummy cars. They don't have any couplings on them! I would like to be able to run a power car and a dummy car together, just on their own, but they will not couple without a coach in between them. Any part numbers for an extra coupling, etc would be very helpful. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I know what you mean. These power and dummy cars have the coupling loop, but no hooks. There are no mountings for hooks. There are, I believe, no straight forward to fit other couplings with hooks, as the existing couplings incorporate the air tanks, and clip onto the bogie frame. The simplest option is to form a loop of wire around the two coupling loops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I have solved this problem by having the powered loco PUSH a rack of coaches. Not ideal, but it works OK for 2-4 coaches. (of course, they roll on when the loco stops 😀) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duke 71000 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 "Potbus2378" Simplest solution: Remove the current couplings. Cut off the loop. Then cut a slot in the air brake tanks & superglue an NEM Coupling pocket into the recess. Height & positioning of the new NEM pocket must be checked before finally glueing in place. Then of course you can put whatever type of coupling you want into the NEM pocket, whether it be Marklin, Felischmann, Roco, British standard or even a real life type Kadee Buckeye........ The Duke 71000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 By coincidence I was fixing my 1980's HST yesterday. The coupling is special with no hook and it clips onto the front of the bogie. So it looks like in your case someone has unclipped them and lost them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96RAF Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 A paper clip would make a suitable link for towing, but likely not for pushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 This is what you are missing https://www.petersspares.com/hornby-s9695-class-43-hst-125-coupling-tank-pk2.ir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Maybe, Colin, but you are still left with the problem of how to couple them together in the absence of hooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinB Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Yes, I did read that, but later he was on about pushing coaches so assumed he had coaches with hooks. I assumed he just had the bogies without the clipon coupling. I didn't even realise they clipped on until one of mine fell off while I was sorting out the pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potrail2378 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 ColinB - thanks for your time searching this out, but it's just not what I'm looking for - I need the metal hook which attaches to this. And no, it wasn't me who was pushing coaches around with the front of the HST!Going Spare - you're on the same wavelength as I am. All I'm trying to do is get the two units running together on their own. Right now I've cannibalised an old wagon for its hooks, it's still in the workshop right now, but will be on the layout tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 There is and never was a metal hook to fit the original Hornby HST power car coupling. None were fitted from new. Coupling relied on the hooks on the Mk3 Coaches, which did have hooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potrail2378 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 The Duke 71000 - thanks for the tip, which I have modified. I cut the loop off, and used the Dremmel to cut down to the air tanks. Then I drilled out the couplings from a scrapped track cleaner (the old one, with the strip of material that you soak with IPA and it drags underneath the track cleaner), then drilled holes in the original coupling and used track pins to screw them together. Perfect! Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Service Sheet for Reference. /media/tinymce_upload/cbb7ca6f0fc36b2b3401125a0a521158.JPG/media/tinymce_upload/9888615d0da7ce327e7ff907c5438e29.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo1707820979 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Thanks for the Service Sheet, Ruffnut. I'm the one who must plead guilty to doing the "pushing". (Tho I'm not a pushy type in real life !) The 4-vehicle rake has done about 50 circuits now, smoothly, without once derailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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