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Hornby signal bulb change


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Margate-Richmond has developed a retro kit that replaces the filament bulbs with leds. The kit includes the pcb that forms the back of the R406 signal. The kits cover a variety of colour combinations, not just red and green, but also yellow.

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I note Peters Spares description of the bulb includes "(MES)".  If this is shorthand for metric screw (?), these bulbs will not fit R406 colour light signals made in the UK as these have an imperial thread.  If this is not the correct interpretation of MES, you will need to contact Peters Spares to determine whether they are suitable for your signal.

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But the description does go on to state "Fits the R406 Colour Light Signal".

 

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PS - Here is the matching Red one

https://www.petersspares.com/hornby-s8718r-colour-light-signal-bulb-red.ir

 

Just for information. At some point in chronological time [date unknown by me] Hornby updated the R406 signal from incandescent bulbs to 3mm Round LEDs. In their wisdom [i wish they wouldn't do this] they kept the exact same R406 stock code number. So buying these second-hand is a bit of a lottery as to whether you get the bulb or LED version.

 

The LED version also includes internal reverse bias protection diodes to make the new LED signal version compatible with both DC (common positive) and 16 volt AC supply voltages.

 

 

 

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Thank you both!  I had come across ES but not MES and Google was no help.  Wiki variously attributes the M to both Medium and Miniature!  The pitch of the screw on Peters Spares bulbs still needs to be established, though.  Probably metric.

In view of Chrissaf's post, there are therefore at least 3 versions of R406: UK imperial thread bulb, China metric thread bulb, China led.

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The WiKi [granted can't always be relied upon] states that the Edison Screw 'Patent' originates from 1881 and being American who are not renowned for adopting European metric standards probably means that the actual thread is historic and specific to the whole ES range.

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The bulbs are LES, Lilliput Edison Screw bulbs.  They can be extracted using a straw if you don't have the special tool for the job.

 

So are you suggesting the filament lamps sold by Peters Spares for use in the older filament lit versions of the Hornby colour light signal are not correct?  Or that simply they have used the wrong terminolgy? 

There is a vast difference!

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Think they might have the wrong terminology Flashbang.  Pretty sure they are LES fitting, E5  5.5mm diameter, MES is E10 type   10.2mm Diameter.  Could be wrong of course as getting old. lol

 

Removal of the bulbs or tightening up is simple, insert the end of a paper straw over the glass end of the bulb and you can turn them.

 

 

 
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