LCDR Posted May 29, 2012 Author Share Posted May 29, 2012 Graskie said:Although I run all BR steam periods, I could never bring myself to buy Hornby's 2008 commemorative 1948 trials special edition R2685 34006 "Bude." What an incongruous and, may I say, ugly sight! Normal lined malachite green for the loco coupled with a black "BRITISH RAILWAYS" Stanier tender. Urrrgghh!Yes looked ghastly but it did run like that. For Duchesses and Royal Scots that ran on the Southern during the 1948 exchanges they attached some WD 8 wheel tenders to counteract the lack of water troughs, equally strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Shocking they didn't have water troughs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinkey Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Hi, ive been ito railways for ages, however water troughs are new to me, i think i get the idea of them, however can someone explain so i know! Its probably simple which i will regret, and feel silly asking!P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCDR Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 Not a silly question, and never be afraid to ask.Water troughs (track pans in the USA) are long troughs filled with water placed between the rails on a straight and level section of line. These are fed from a line side water tower. As a steam train passes over them the fireman can lower a scoop fitted in the tender, and the forward motion of the train forces water up the scoop and into the water tank. This allows trains to refil the tender with water on a long journey without having to stop. The LMSR, LNER and GWR all had them and they were quite spectacular when in use because if the fireman left the scoop in too long there would be a cascade of water all over the first coach! The Southern did not have them, hence the need for special tenders for visiting locomotives. When diesels were first introduced the train heating was still steam and diesels had an oil fired boiler and were fitted with scoops too so they could pick up water for train heating. Certain large tank engines got fitted with scoops too, but the number of classes of tank engine so fitted was very small. You can tell which locomotives were fitted with scoops because on the back of the top of a tender there will be a dome, usually just in front of the water filler hatch. There will be vents somewhere too, usually looking like tall thin mushrooms. There are no water troughs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog RJ Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Dinkey said:Hi, ive been ito railways for ages, however water troughs are new to me, i think i get the idea of them, however can someone explain so i know! Its probably simple which i will regret, and feel silly asking!PIf you put "bushey troughs" into Google you will find some pictures of water troughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poliss Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Or you can watch them in action.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euX65WsaxNk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinkey Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Thanks guys, very interesting! Wonder how its took so long for me to come accross these! Anyway cheers, totaly off the original subject of liveries though!P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da4472vid Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Lion as wore the name titfield for the film. on the water cress line Maunsell N Class 2-6-0 31874 was painted as james the red loco out of the tomas the tank books http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=Maunsell+N+Class+2-6-0+31874+as+jams&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1024&bih=651&tbm=isch&tbnid=2YGZdv_jv4YBkM:&imgrefurl=http://www.dapsites.com/gcr/locos/e31874.htm&docid=YoGw3OIeUHNhMM&imgurl=http://www.dapsites.com/gcr/pictures/e874001.jpg&w=464&h=292&ei=gAbJT_zIFMiw0QXrxuXUAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=698&vpy=313&dur=2930&hovh=178&hovw=283&tx=176&ty=116&sig=112463214718074166888&page=1&tbnh=126&tbnw=200&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graskie Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Isn't that sad about 31874? I saw "Royal Scot" and "Oliver Cromwell with Thomas faces on them at Bressingham before they were eventually put into working condition. It spoiled my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinkey Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Just wayched that clip again, absolutly brilliant!!!Ppoliss said:Or you can watch them in action.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euX65WsaxNk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Prat Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 On the Mid-Hants on Thomas weekends most of the locos have a face painted on a mounting which is hung from the top lamp iron. The sad thing about 31874 is that the entire loco is painted Red which obviously means it cannot readily be changed. What makes it even worse is that 31874 is the only example of her class to have survived - if they must have a Red loco why not do one of the U class, they have 2 of them!!Graskie said:Isn't that sad about 31874? I saw "Royal Scot" and "Oliver Cromwell with Thomas faces on them at Bressingham before they were eventually put into working condition. It spoiled my day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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