britishcolum Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Great news Piko is on board, provided it’s as good at the Tillig ones but at least the pockets seem to be at consistent heights and to right dimensions I'm actually a bit suprised it's taken them this long. Aside from Roco, most manufacturers whose products I own other than Piko have been using the Tillig couplers for some years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcr22 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Hi....is the Rokal coupling similar to Hornby one?thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 @mcr22 I'm not sure how compatible it is? Looking on google it looks to be different to both the old BTTB stirrup coupling and the new Tillig style. I've even just seen a Rokal baggage coach with a Triang TT tension-lock fitted to one end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcr22 Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 ok thanks for that.....thought I might buy some Rokal coaches on Ebay, but perhaps not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 If you find a cheap Rokal wagon on ebay then might as well grab it and investigate? Might be possible to use the Tillig couplings having the old style BTTB shaft (I've got a pack of those on the way to play with my BTTB set). Depends how Rokal mount theirs? I expect something can be done to fit the new type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I did find on German ebay a special converter with an NEM shank and a Rokal coupling head, but not found anything yet to fit a Tillig head to a Rokal wagon.Also, looking at the Rokal items on ebay their wheel flanges are very coarse. I've seen on a German TT forum comments about problems with the coarse Rokal wheelsets on modern NEM standard pointwork. You'd need to replace the wheels or have them lathed.Put this through google translate :)https://www.tt-board.de/forum/threads/kupplungs-umruestung-an-rokal-fahrzeugen.46935/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Coarse wheels and in some cases poor detail is what turns me off older stock. I’m purposely holding off buying stuff I don’t really want, just to have something to run. Having been wooed by my Arnold Refrigerator vans, Piko BR 130 loco and a soon toappear Tillig 236 diesel shunter, hopefully only weeks away from my Easterner set, I know the old stuff with all its issues would frustrate me. One of the good things in modern TT seems to be a pretty accurate NEM pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 My pack of Tillig 08848 couplings to fit the old BTTB pocket just arrived from Germany. Very simple to exchange the old stirrup coupling head with the new Tillig type. I won't know how well the coupling height compares with Hornby until my Easterner set is delivered in the fullness of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcr22 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Hi....did exactly the same thing myself today, probably from the same source!Height is an exact fit with Hornby stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_watts1 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Has anyone tries the magnetic Hunt Couplings from West Hill Wagon Works yet? I wonder if Hornby might do some since they've appeared in the OO range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Hi David, I saw these on WHWW site too when getting some of their TT bits (excellent stuff) but unless I am missing something I can’t see a good reason for the Hunt Magnet Couplings in TT. The close coupling of the ‘Tillig Type’ coupler adopted by Hornby/Arnold/Piko etc is as close as you can get and if the couplings are a bit tight, swapping just 1 to a Tillig produced one cures that. Is there another advantage to the Hunt Magnetic ones I have missed? (Never used them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I think some people like magnetic couplings either because they suffer too many rogue uncoupling incidents (seems to be the main reason for people adopting the N gauge Hunts) and/or they like the ease of uncoupling compared to say hook-and-loop types. Not something I'm bothered about, my N gauge Rapido couplings work fine as do the Tillig for TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-Man Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Apart from being very close couplings, the Tillig type have the advantage that remote uncoupling is possible if that is important to you. Unless I am mistaken the magnetic couplings can only be uncoupled by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 considering uncoupling, I did notice a Hornby employee struggling with development TT models on the TV programme, I’m happy my big coupler order has arrived from Germany, the precision in coupling/uncoupling is amazing and that’s without a automatic uncoupler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9020 Nimbus Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I think some people like magnetic couplings either because they suffer too many rogue uncoupling incidents (seems to be the main reason for people adopting the N gauge Hunts) and/or they like the ease of uncoupling compared to say hook-and-loop types.Not something I'm bothered about, my N gauge Rapido couplings work fine as do the Tillig for TT. I've had "rogue uncoupling incidents" with Jägendorfer Collection ÖBB "Spantenwagen" (4-wheel coaches). Sometimes Peco wagons can have the problem too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntpntpntp Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 @dodge West Hill Wagon Works (as mentioned in one of the previous posts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Ok guys, Where to order these tillig couplers from and what part number do I need ?Presumably they are a straight swap for the hornby part ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_watts1 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Tillig 08840 Gauge TT TT-Kupplung für NEM-Aufnahme modellbahnshop-lippe.comThese are the ones I got, but they do a l larger pack number 08841. Shipping is 12.50 euro flat rate, they do knock the VAT off, but keep any orders below about a 100 quid or Customs will hammer you on duty. Shipping is fast on in stock items too.Arnold UK: Model Trains, Buildings and Accessories (arnoldmodel.com)These do couplings too, but you will need to contact them since there are no pictures for guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I take it larger pack is 56 couplings, not 56 individual pieces !So I can do 26 wagons/coaches and one shunter + 2 Mainline locos.And they are a straight swap ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 TT, not sure why you want to swap in the first place?If you read earlier in this thread, Tillig considered a direct replacement for the Hornby so you woul be swapping for something exactly the same.Also earlier, Arnold couplings while very similar are “tight”, making coupling/uncoupling difficult. Desirable to swap at least one for Tillig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Oh, I was under the impression these were better than the hornby ones ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_watts1 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The Tillig ones are exactly the same, I got them because one of my Pullmans had a broken one and a Roco BR80 I bought had different ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Well, handy to know if I need replacements, thanks Gents.I see mention of a magnetic uncoupling wand for the hand of dog, where might one of these be found ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallymatt Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Hornby and Arnold both use the Kuehn made couplings that are a match for the Tillig design that is adopted as the TT120 standard.Although they look very similar they are not identical, especially in operation. The Kuehn ones are tight, this can make coupling and uncoupling a bit of a faf. I have swapped out all my couplings for the genuine Tillig ones, they are superb. To couple only required the slightest touch and uncoupling I use a magnetic tip flat blade screwdriver, it lifts the metal hooks and they are apart. They stay connected in use for me. Because I like shunting and marshalling trains I don’t want to be fighting with an awkward system. I must of course add, I haven’t tried the exact Hornby coupler but so far video footage suggests they are a bit tricky.Uncoupling poles are available from Tillig, the ramps are coming from Hornby soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Yes I saw the ramps, but oddly it wont let me pre-order face_with_rolling_eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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