The_Seagull Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 HI Guys....have been thinking about a live steam set, and have a question. can a Hornby live steam loco be used on a DCC layout without any modifications? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2e0dtoeric Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Yes - and no! The control system is totally different. You would need to remove all the DCC loco's, accessories, and controllers, before running LS, and vice versa to run DCC. Plus you would have to give the track a thorough clean after running steam, because they tend to drop oil! If you want to run them both in the same space, you would be best having two totally independent circuits of track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishmanoz Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Put another way - no. The electricals/electronics are incompatible so can't work together on the same track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Seagull Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 Morning Guys.....thanks for the responses....looks like its a deffo no no......was not looking to remove or replace any of my fleet of decoders, plus I am quite happy with my current control system.....so, will carry on with what I have........saved some cash anyway.....cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanesTV Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Please think again The Seagull Live steam is a wonderful and totally different pleasure experience to DCC and the concept of running them both at the same time misses the point. With DCC the programming allows you play 'god' and set in motion a world at your feet. With live steam you actually have to DRIVE the locomotive making the same decisions as a real engine driver if you want a smooth pull-away and accurate stop taking into account the load you are pulling, the track (gradient? curve? how tight? 'leaves on the line') and not least the actual loco you are controlling. They all vary just like the real thing did. Some are smooth and powerful and others are dogs but just as much fun. When you are running a live steam loco you CANNOT run any other, such is the level of concentration required if you want accurate control and no disasters! In my view live steam is FAR more fun than 12v or programmed control where all you have to do is turn a knob and it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 If ever there was an argument for live steam, the answer can be found in my back garden! https://vimeo.com/48966009 https://vimeo.com/49050151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 and here... https://vimeo.com/49341771 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 [reply]The_Seagull said: What has been said here is right do not mix these live steam engines with other systems as in the old days of full size railways the steam engines had a flash label fix to different parts of the engine and tender warning the crew of the dangers of over head cables even if you made a change over switch you may still need to beef up the connections to and around the track which is not a bad thing as poor wire is bad to both types of system. You may like to see my new live steam control system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Gowest, please tell me this is something you are offering up as a service? DCC in my garden is controlled via iphone, so no boxes in the garden, but LIve Steam means I have to take the controllers out into the garden.... Id love to stop doing this and your solution seems ideal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 [reply]doublecee said: Can help you with this not sure what we need to do with out up setting hornby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 gowest said: [reply]doublecee said: Can help you with this not sure what we need to do with out up setting hornby? We can resume this conversation on oolivesteam forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Gowest that is fantastic! So much better than the system I worked out using the steering gear from an RC car and a couple of switches. Is this a one off or are you making kits? Every LS enthusiast will want one (or three). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Gowest that is fantastic! So much better than the system I worked out using the steering gear from an RC car and a couple of switches. Is this a one off or are you making kits? Every LS enthusiast will want one (or three). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 [reply]The_Seagull said: Hornby live steam loco be used on a DCC layout without any modifications? With out a change over switch no they are 2 different systems i have the old Zero 1 system and live steam and run both take a look at my video on youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXqSCh4BUk I still think that the steam set is a more fun system to run as like the real thing you never know what will happen once you get steam up but then for instant running the Zero 1 fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go_West Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 [reply]gowest said: Sorry the link was not working this should www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXqSCh4BUk But remember what ever you run have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Go_West Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sorry Hornby and all again try this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobes78 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hello all I have a layout that has both live steam and DCC. Both are isolated from each other but it means that the live steam can run next to DCC sound diesels and steam engines. I will try to post some pictures to show you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobes78 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Same layout but with the Mallard going round the outside of the DCC trains/media/tinymce_upload/image42.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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